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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #180 on: March 29, 2009, 06:00:24 PM »
What a collection! How are you growing them--- under glass ?
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #181 on: March 29, 2009, 06:03:52 PM »
Tony

You have the wrong species under B. pycantha...
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #182 on: March 29, 2009, 06:24:26 PM »
Tony

You have the wrong species under B. pycantha...


Oron

I can only say that my expert said that is what it is.It has the correct leaves and came from the right place. I just grow them.I wish I had just called it sp. like the rest!!

Maggi they are in two frames so yes under glass.

« Last Edit: March 29, 2009, 11:19:07 PM by Tony Willis »
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #183 on: March 29, 2009, 06:29:14 PM »
Do you think they would be hardy outside, Tony.... or is it the wet you are keeping off them?
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #184 on: March 29, 2009, 06:51:17 PM »
Sorry, that wasn't my intention. :(
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #185 on: March 29, 2009, 07:33:49 PM »
Sorry, that wasn't my intention. :(

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I am really not offended,it is just a discussion.I collected them in an area where pycnantha is dominant and so it was assumed that is what they are. I really have no idea on muscari which seem totally confusing. I have looked at other pictures and I can see that you are correct but what they are I have no idea

Maggi I grow my bulbs under glass just to keep track of them and it is hopeless in the garden ,the labels get lost. They are all hardy.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #186 on: March 29, 2009, 07:47:08 PM »
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Maggi I grow my bulbs under glass just to keep track of them and it is hopeless in the garden ,the labels get lost. They are all hardy.
  Good to know.... I had thought/hoped as much  since we have a couple in the glass house that I would like to rehome outside.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #187 on: April 03, 2009, 03:38:52 PM »
another half dozen muscari.

The first is Bellavalia pycnantha with a total apology to Oron.When I posted this before he said it was wrong and I said it was not. He was completely correct and I was wrong.It was clearly not the right species. I had another species in the same pot which was flowering first. This has now been removed.The perils of random seed collecting.

Bellavalia pycnantha
Muscari latifolium album this is a single bulb which has never sets seed or made an off set.
four Muscari sp.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #188 on: April 04, 2009, 08:47:59 AM »
Tony,

Trying to give some names,
I think the 3ed is M. armeniacum
the 4th M. bourgaei
the last looks like M. neglectum
Regarding the fifth im not sure, is the one leaf a permanent fact or is it a young plant?
Again great collection, the white latifolium is stuning!!!
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #189 on: April 04, 2009, 06:30:16 PM »
Hyacinthella pallens and Muscari grandifolium (?) earlier today.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #190 on: April 04, 2009, 08:48:01 PM »
Some more mislabelled Muscari in the bulb frame.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2009, 12:13:36 AM by Maggi Young »
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #191 on: April 04, 2009, 10:40:19 PM »
Absolutely Oron, the white latifolium is a beauty. Did it turn up in a batch of seedlings Tony?
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #192 on: April 05, 2009, 10:19:40 AM »
All those fantastic muscaries and near-muscaris reinforces my belief that they are far too neglected.
Thank you guys for showing them. 
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #193 on: April 05, 2009, 12:15:50 PM »
Absolutely Oron, the white latifolium is a beauty. Did it turn up in a batch of seedlings Tony?

Lesley yes one odd one.As I said no seed and no off sets!
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #194 on: April 05, 2009, 12:50:29 PM »
Tony,

What a bummer.  At least if you had two of them you could consider twin scaling or something to try to get yourself a clump.  With only one bulb there's always so much more nervousness.  Hopefully for your sake it produces at least an offset as a backup for you one of these years.  Then you can have them in 2 different places so that there's more insurance.

Enjoying all these Muscari pics.  Some wonderful ones I have certainly never seen nor heard of before.  I too loved that white latifolium..... looks very special.  8)
Cheers.

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