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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #615 on: October 13, 2009, 01:25:11 AM »
Thanks everyone.

I have 56 seedlngs of the dark purple that I planted out below my Hellebore's. Out of the 56, 6 or 7 seedlings had flowers. Next August/Fall maybe an even darker one will show.
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #616 on: October 13, 2009, 10:37:12 AM »
Thanks for the information Michael. I hope this will help to get me a bit more educated :)
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #617 on: October 13, 2009, 10:45:28 AM »
Thank's Arthur !!
I have some litterature but species appears, disappears, reappears, ....sometimes, I HATE botanists  ;) ::)

Just leave your labels the same ,ignore the new names and wait.The old ones then come around again when somebody wants to get there name in print.Patience is all thats required.
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #618 on: October 13, 2009, 10:52:01 AM »
Thanks everyone.

I have 56 seedlngs of the dark purple that I planted out below my Hellebore's. Out of the 56, 6 or 7 seedlings had flowers. Next August/Fall maybe an even darker one will show.


Guff, your photo shows such a happy community of Cyclamen! I love the way you have them carpeting an area in front of the Hellebores and the dark purple first flowers are glorious in the dappled light - thanks so much for sharing your success ad inspiring me to find the right spot to grow them here  :D
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #619 on: October 13, 2009, 07:02:07 PM »
I was given this lovely C. rohlfsianum recently, and to my amazement it appears to be growing a leaf from the place the seeds eventually locate.  Does anyone know why this may have happened?
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #620 on: October 13, 2009, 07:45:20 PM »
I was given this lovely C. rohlfsianum recently, and to my amazement it appears to be growing a leaf from the place the seeds eventually locate.  Does anyone know why this may have happened?

Now that is bizarre.

I wonder if the pod has the capacity to root when it touches the soil.

I am amazed to see such a wonderfully compact rohlfsianum at the Ponteland show. My three have very long petioles that stretch out more than 6" beyond the pot - and that's in full light at latitude 44+.  I grow mine lean.  What's the trick to keeping them compact like this?

johnw - heavy rain yet again, seems every 5 days we get an inch or more.
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #621 on: October 13, 2009, 08:03:26 PM »
I'll keep you posted, John about mine.  I've only just taken possession of it and love the foliage, so I'm hoping I can show it one day, but if it does this weird thing with the leaves coming out of the flowers (another flower is showing signs of doing exactly the same thing) it won't be something for a show bench, more's the pity.
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #622 on: October 13, 2009, 09:09:34 PM »
I was given this lovely C. rohlfsianum recently, and to my amazement it appears to be growing a leaf from the place the seeds eventually locate.  Does anyone know why this may have happened?
Chris - the transformation of floral parts into leaves is not uncommon in plants, though I have never heard of it in cyclamen. One of the first people to observe this - in the 18th cent. - was the poet, botanist, statesman & polymath, J.W. Goethe who used it as the basis to argue (in 'The Metamorphosis of Plants') that all the organs of flowering plants were fundamentally the same. Some modern biologists think he was right. I posted about this earlier this year  with some of Goethe's illustrations of tulips in which  leaves & floral parts had transformed into each other**.

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #623 on: October 13, 2009, 10:44:46 PM »
I'll take a read of that when I'm more alert, Gerry.  Thanks for your input.  It looks really curious.  I wonder if it will do it again next year?
Chris Boulby
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #624 on: October 16, 2009, 08:02:32 AM »
Some more Cyclamen this morning,
Surprisingly  the double form C. rholfsianum seems to be a constant feature, last year it had one flower, this year four, all doubled.
First C. persicum var. autumnale to flower.
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #625 on: October 16, 2009, 08:18:59 AM »
Lovely, Oron, your C. graecum album is especially lovely in that leafy setting  :)
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #626 on: October 16, 2009, 08:43:35 AM »
All good stuff, Folks!
but I'm particularly intrigued by the autumn flowering C. persicum! Where is this one from, Oron?
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #627 on: October 16, 2009, 08:53:41 AM »
 :o - Oron, as usual superb plants - I love this Cyclamen persicum, a real gem,  but also this double Cyclamen rohlfsianum! :o - I was not aware double Cyclamen exist - a very fine plant.
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #628 on: October 16, 2009, 09:48:40 AM »
Wonderful, Oron.  I rather like the "double" Cyclamen for it's quirkiness, rather than for it's appearance.  ;D  I wonder what it's seedlings will flower like?  I love that persicum form.  So many flowers on your rohlfsianum!!!  :o :o All very nice. 
Cheers.

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #629 on: October 16, 2009, 10:44:47 AM »
Oron,
Thanks for these superb pics! Nice to see the autumn flowering persicum the first time.

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