Cyclamen 2009

[Oron Peri]

All good stuff, Folks!
but I'm particularly intrigued by the autumn flowering C. persicum! Where is this one from, Oron?
cheers
fermi

Thank you all,

Fermi,
Cyclamen persicum varieta autumnale grows mainly in Israel but also in the Golan Heights [Syria], it has been reported a few years ago from Lebanon, around Beirut and since i have seen some colonies close to the border with Jordan i'm certain it grows also at its NW part.

It starts to bloom without leaves in Mid October, about two months before the species its self, before it receives any rainfall.

I'm not a botanist nor a taxonomist, but since it has several characters that differs it from the common species i would think it merits upgrading to a subspecies level, but that is not for me to decide.

[Oron Peri]

Wonderful, Oron.  I rather like the "double" Cyclamen for it's quirkiness, rather than for it's appearance.    I wonder what it's seedlings will flower like?  

- Oron, as usual superb plants - I love this Cyclamen persicum, a real gem,  but also this double Cyclamen rohlfsianum! - I was not aware double Cyclamen exist - a very fine plant.

Paul and Hans,

Double forms occur very rarely, i have read in books, also in Cyclamen by Christopher Grey-Wilson that double forms are usually sterile, but in my experience they are fertile.
I had a magnificent C. persicum [wild form] with 12 petals that grew and set seeds regularly for three years, i almost cried when it passed away
Any way i have about 60 seedlings from it but so far the maximum are 7 petals forms but not all have matured yet so hopfully this year a copy of the parent will appear.

[johnw]

I was going through the Cyclamen hederifolium seedlings today to assess by foliage. Only two stand out.

A lobed leaf one - 1 & 2 and a white flowered one with particularly bright silvering 3 & 4.

johnw

[Joakim B]

John what lovely variants they are.
Hope they grow well for You.
Joakim

[johnw]

The purpurasecens seedling in my post #516 has finally put up another leaf. Unfortunately is not quite the same as the almost lobeless one before, silver saucer would have been a great name for that one.  I think it will now have to be called mickey mouse as the lobes stand perpendicular to the leaf. Very strange. No doubt another name will be needed for the next leaf.

johnw

[Regelian]

One of the main reasons I grow Cyclamen is the decorative foliage.  Attached are some older seedlings, which clearly show their relationship, yet are all different. Sorry that some are poorly focused.

Cyclamen hederadifolium

[johnw]

A wonderful variety you have there Jamie.

We had a two year old purpurascens seedling send out leaves this year which had what appeared to be the promise of yellow markings.  The markings were very small and nothing special but they quickly changed to silver.  I wonder if any Cyclamen has the potential to have yellow or gold markings. 

johnw

[Regelian]

John,

thanks for the kind words.  In reference to yellow markings, I don't really see why not, as yellow in the leaves is often the changing of chlorophyll into chloroplasts, which are yellow.  At some point, the mutation should arise.

[johnw]

Also, perhaps the result of a slow release fertilizer I used in my mix last autumn, the leaves of purpurascens (shot #1) and rohlfsianum (shot #2) are a tad over-sezed this year.

This Cyclamen graecum (shots #3 & 4) was given to me by a friend who was moving away.  The leaf pattern is very different than my other graecums which are more or less plain green.  Wiould anyone care to hazard an identification?

Clean-up time on the cyclamen in pots. At this time of year fallen flowers and aborted flower stems seem to rot quickly and get botrytis. I don't know if it is this climate or if others elsewhere have the same problem.  A shot of Rovral seems to do the trick after removal of the messy parts

johnw

[johnw]

And a couple more hederifolium seedling finds.

On the first one  (1 & 2) I particularly like the pale green interior.  The third was labelled "very strange heart-shaped 08" last year, it seems to be deveoping a few lobes this year.  There may be some markings but they haven't developed yet. I'll try to remember to photograph it when more fully developed.

johnw

[BULBISSIME]

Oron, very nice flowers and I agree with others regarding this autumnale form of C. persicum.
I don't really like double forms but I LOVE the white graecum 

[Paul T]

Evening All,

Cyclamen pseudibericum, flowering here at present!!  Flash was required at the time as wasn't the best light conditions.

Please click on the pic for a larger version.

[annew]

A well-flowered plant, Paul. Must have a nice scent!

[Paul T]

Anne,

I don't recall it being perfumed, but I'll have to check.

Just a note that I have also corrected the name of it, that I had spelt incorrectly (and I notice I made the same mistake in the name on the picture too.... too many i's, not enough e's    THanks for the correction, Hans.)

[johnw]

A late Cyclamen hederifolium whose flowers have stayed squat, leaves still undeveloped. Also C. mirabile Tilebarn Nicholas today.

johnw