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Paul T

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #705 on: November 01, 2009, 06:21:52 AM »
Michael,

What a shame.  That would be a fantastically unusual Cyclamen if it stayed like that.  I must admit to buying a C. persicum for the same reason at a nursery a few years ago, but it went back to normal the next year unfortunately.  ::)
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #706 on: November 01, 2009, 08:40:42 AM »
Michael, such a nice looking plant, a real pity it did not stay like that.
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #707 on: November 01, 2009, 09:15:18 AM »
Robin & Luc  :D

Many thanks for your compliments

Hans 8)
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #708 on: November 01, 2009, 10:23:02 AM »
Quote from: Hans J on October 31, 2009, 04:21:28 PM
Cyclamen X wellensiekii

This is a hybrid between C.libanotiucum X C. cyprium - first descripetet from Prof. Wellensiek

Hans,

This is a rather nice hybrid, isn't it!!  8)  Yo ucan see the influences of each parent in shape and markings etc.  It looks like quite an elegant flower too.  Very nice!

Out of interest, do seedlings from this throw back to both parents?  Do you end up with further intermediaries that shift further and further towards both of the parents?  No, I am not asking for seed, just intrigued as to what these do when their own seed is grown on.  Did you make the cross between the two yourself?

Thanks very much for the pics. :)
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #709 on: November 01, 2009, 10:48:39 AM »
Thank you Paul  ;)

This is a interesting question ....I had the same question before many years ....
A nice friend ( who is breeding Cyclamen ) told me it is not possibly with making seeds from this hybrids .
If you will have such plants so you have to make a new cross with both parents ( in this case cyprium x libanoticum ).

I have also sown in last years:
X meiklei ( creticum x repandum )
X hildebrandii ( africanum x hederifolium )
elegans x alpinum
creticum x peleponnesiacum
X schwarzii ( libanoticum x pseudibericum )
X wellensiekii ( plain leaf )
X wellensiekii F2
X wellensiekii ex org. Wellensiek
X drydeniae ( coum x alpinum )
X saundersii ( balearicum x repandum )

now I have to wait  ::)
Hans
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #710 on: November 01, 2009, 10:56:13 AM »
Wow, Hans.  That is going to be some collection.  I had x saundersii I bought as a tuber many years ago, but it died out one year.  I might make note of some of those crosses and try them myself next year.  I didn't realise so many species would hybridise.  I wonder if my balearicum is still in flower..... I know the repandum are (including some from seed from you as it happens!!  ;D)
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #711 on: November 02, 2009, 02:50:08 AM »
A long leaf silver hederifolium here.  A whole row of them was labelled pseudibericum var. roseum.  How many times have I collected from them when dormant and sent seed to the exchanges as pseudibericum? I trust I shall be forgiven.  Hopefully someone got something decent.

Luckily I discovered the mistake this year after sending to the exchanges and all were able to relabel them. 

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #712 on: November 02, 2009, 09:15:11 AM »
I really like that combination of the arrow leaf colour and markings and the rosey flower, John  8)

Looks as if the flowers are held on shortish stalks or is it just an illusion with the leaf pointing upwards?
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #713 on: November 02, 2009, 11:55:02 AM »
Quote from: Ragged Robin on November 02, 2009, 09:15:11 AM
Looks as if the flowers are held on shortish stalks or is it just an illusion with the leaf pointing upwards?

Robin - I think just an illusion as the leaves are just emerging.

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #714 on: November 10, 2009, 04:53:02 PM »
Small things to make me happy
Seedlings of C persicum from the florist appearing the same year as the mother plant flowers in Portugal. I do not know how quick they generally are but I like that they are so quick here.
They all looks "the same" but I hope they will differ later. Is the first foliage also typical of the colours of the coming foliage?
The whole 32 cm (14") pot is pull of seedlings even after the mother plants seems to have died. I sprinkled some extra seeds from other plants as well.

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #715 on: November 10, 2009, 07:13:37 PM »
Quote from: johnw on November 02, 2009, 02:50:08 AM
A long leaf silver hederifolium here.  A whole row of them was labelled pseudibericum var. roseum.  How many times have I collected from them when dormant and sent seed to the exchanges as pseudibericum? I trust I shall be forgiven.  Hopefully someone got something decent.

Luckily I discovered the mistake this year after sending to the exchanges and all were able to relabel them. 

johnw

nice form, john; i know you've said hederifolium is not reliably hardy for you, so do these stay in the greenhouse?
i was tempted recently by a really nice silver leafed florist's cyclamen, but it was in a 'fancy' pot for fall season (a ceramic pumpkin!) at an inflated price!
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #716 on: November 18, 2009, 10:56:29 AM »
here proudly presents :

Cyclamen persicum f. autumnale

Thats my first flower after some years from sowing !!!
...I hope in next year more

Seeds received in year 2005 from a nice friend from Israel  :D

Hans 8)
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #717 on: November 18, 2009, 10:59:56 AM »
Congrats Hans !
Looks very nice indeed !
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #718 on: November 18, 2009, 11:33:03 AM »
Nice, Hans.  I love the twisting petals.  Nice leaves too.  Congratulations!  8)
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #719 on: November 18, 2009, 11:46:09 AM »
Beautiful plant, beautiful photos!
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