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David Shaw

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #315 on: July 17, 2009, 06:46:06 PM »
Martin, I am quite happy to accept the purpurascens name for the plant. At this point in time I don't want to disturb it too much by excavating any more but I will try to remeber to look when it dies back a bit.
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #316 on: July 18, 2009, 03:39:29 AM »
David,

Does your plant go completely dormant?  I find here that my purpursacens are pretty much evergreen (they go off a bit is spring, but always have at least some leaves on them), while the hederifoliums are totally dormant for a couple of months, then flowers, then leaves.  The flower stems on the hederifolium go horizontally, then have a 90' angle before heading upwards, whilst the purpurascens head straight up from the tuber.... just so many differences between those I have of both species. 

Seeing the discussion here about how similar they are and how hard to tell apart, I am wondering why mine behave so differently to anyone else's?  There is a texture and shape to my purpurascens that is totally different to any of the hederifoliums I have ever seen, plus the evergreen versus complete dormancy.... adds up to me here not being able to mix them up by any stretch of the imagination.  Do mine here behave THAT differently to everyone else's?
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #317 on: July 18, 2009, 08:31:20 AM »
Paul
This discussion relates to just one plant. We have both purpurascens and hederifolium that behave conventionally but this is a self seeder (I think) that has been sent to confuse us (me!).
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #318 on: July 18, 2009, 01:29:55 PM »
Paul,

I would say that C. purpurascens is an evergreen species as well as C. colchicum.

There might be a slight difference between individual plants but at least down here at the moment they are in flower with most plants replacing old leaves with new ones.

I had a few cases that plants got dormant for a whole year after a very hot wether, but this is quite rare for me.

My C. colchicum are drying out last year's leaves, having already many flower buds and new leaves coming up at the same time.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2009, 01:52:30 PM by Oron Peri »
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #319 on: July 19, 2009, 04:35:07 AM »
Gerd, here is one of my pots of the dark purple hederifolium, at what stage did you start to notice the color change to the purple? I did see more buds popping up when I watered the other day. So looking forward to seeing it open.
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #320 on: July 19, 2009, 07:53:22 AM »
Quote from: Guff on July 19, 2009, 04:35:07 AM
at what stage did you start to notice the color change to the purple? 

At first the flowers are surprisingly pale and I suspected an usual colored hederifolium. The surprise appeared later - so I hope you'll have the same kind of flowers in a few days!

- see pics -

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #321 on: July 19, 2009, 10:40:57 PM »
Gerd, thanks for posting the pictures and info, such a nice color. Maybe by next weekend mine will be open, I will post a picture when it does.
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #322 on: July 21, 2009, 01:53:49 PM »
This have been very educational for me so thanks a lot for the comments You all have given about Davidīs plant.
I hope to show my own plants later when I visit them.
All the best
Joakim
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #323 on: July 22, 2009, 05:44:48 PM »
Hi all ,

here is a pic from yesterday from a real strange Cyc. purpurascens -it has a strange behavior  ::)
the petals are always horizontal !
On beginning of flowering I wait always ....but now after one week still the same :-\
I dont remeber on the flowers on last year - but I will watch for next years ....
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #324 on: July 22, 2009, 11:58:33 PM »
Hans,

I bought a Cyclamen persicum a few years ago because it had all it's petals downward-facing, looking almost like a Galanthus in form.  It did that for the whole season of flowering, but the next year was perfectly normal.  Why it did it I have no idea, but I wonder if your purpurascens has the same confusion this year?
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #325 on: July 23, 2009, 01:07:50 AM »
Nice pictures Hans, what camera, super clear?

My two Purpurascens planted outside are starting to flower.

Gerd, what do you think, will it get dark?   
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #326 on: July 23, 2009, 06:22:17 AM »
Quote from: Guff on July 23, 2009, 01:07:50 AM
Nice pictures Hans, what camera, super clear?


Thanks Guff - my camera is a Nikon D 50 - I'm very satisfied !
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #327 on: July 23, 2009, 06:30:18 AM »
Quote from: Guff on July 23, 2009, 01:07:50 AM
Gerd, what do you think, will it get dark?   

Guff, in that state my hederifolium looks pretty much as yours do - unfortunenately I can't compare it with a 'normal' colored one because there are no buds and flowers - so you have to wait to be sure. It will be only a short time.

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #328 on: July 23, 2009, 10:49:43 PM »
Gerd,

a wonderful dark one!
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #329 on: July 23, 2009, 10:50:41 PM »
Hans,

an unusual plant. It remembers a bit at C.trochopterantum/C.alpinum.
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