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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #360 on: August 18, 2009, 11:47:03 PM »
Melvyn / Maggi  - I am surprised to see such nicely dried up old dead leaves n your graecum.  In this climate if we do not remove old & dying leaves under glass they almost immediately get covered in botrytis and this can easily spread to tender new growth.   Outdoors the cyclamen must fend for themselves, slugs probably clean up the old leaves or they rot very quickly.

johnw - still +25c at 19:45.
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #361 on: August 19, 2009, 07:41:35 AM »
Melvyn

Beautiful plant, quite early for the graecum to flower but probably dew to lower temperatures,
Mt. Smith's population does look as an intermediate form of the two ssp. the auricale that spreads up as in candicum but still i find that the 'puffy , baloony' form of the flower on a short pedical are a ssp. anatolicum characteristics.

This morning C. colchicum in full bloom in my refrigerator, enjoying 20c while out side it is 34c with 45% humidity.
I find that the flowers of this species are the longest to last, two to four weeks for each flower!!! but very shy to set seeds...
 
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #362 on: August 19, 2009, 03:47:49 PM »
This morning C. colchicum in full bloom in my refrigerator, enjoying 20c while out side it is 34c with 45% humidity.
I find that the flowers of this species are the longest to last, two to four weeks for each flower!!! but very shy to set seeds...

Oron,
It seems the Cyclamen feels fine inside the fridge. Under my conditions C. colchicum normally develolps lots of seeds (last year was an exception).
Maybe for pollination some air movement and less humidity is needed.

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #363 on: August 19, 2009, 04:33:00 PM »


 surprisingly non-auriculate for C graecum - is that typical of the Monte Smith plants?
Diane it would not be fair to say that the plants are typical of the Monte Smith cyclamen population, the plants, both leaves and flowers, are quite variable and as is often the case the plants growing in the open on the escarpement have much better leaves than those growing under the pine trees lower down by the main road. Its always a good site to visit in the autumn with other goodies such as Crocus tournefortii and Spiranthes spiralis flowering with the cyclamen.

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #364 on: August 19, 2009, 10:31:06 PM »
This morning C. colchicum in full bloom in my refrigerator, enjoying 20c while out side it is 34c with 45% humidity.
I find that the flowers of this species are the longest to last, two to four weeks for each flower!!! but very shy to set seeds...
Maybe for pollination some air movement and less humidity is needed.

Yes, installation of a small fan in Oron's refrigerator would probably be very good for the plants. If you can find one, a small "muffin fan" that runs off ordinary mains electrical current would probably be more convenient than one salvaged from a computer and needing a special power supply.

I've noticed that virtually all orchid houses have numerous fans running at all times so the air is never still.
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #365 on: August 19, 2009, 10:44:06 PM »
Couple pictures.

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #366 on: August 20, 2009, 07:25:44 AM »
Gerd , Rodger thanks,

Actually there is a fan installed at the upper part of the refrig in order to create air circulation, but probably it isn't enough for C. colchicum since  the different coums i grow in it set seeds freely.
Never the less they all seem to feel quite happy in it , some hot days  i wish i could fit in too... ;)
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #367 on: August 20, 2009, 03:23:22 PM »
Color variation in Cyclamen purpurascens -

Unfortunately my purpurascens don't flower satisfactorily - this means one flower here, another at a second plant and never in a bunch like C. hederifolium does.
Otherwise the great variation in leaf coloration is a good compensation.
My favorite pattern is what I describe here as ' middle silver to white '

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #368 on: August 20, 2009, 08:22:19 PM »
My first two greenhouse based Cyclamen showing early flowers with only the barest minimum of water so far.
Cyclamen intaminatum
Cyclamen cilicum.

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #369 on: August 24, 2009, 02:08:32 PM »
Good flowers, David, more will follow soon!!

Gerd your garden looks like Lago di Garda woods with all this variability in the leaves  8)

Grown from seeds in 2005 and after two years in the open garden I have the first
flowers on these Cyclamen graecum. They survived -24°C last winter!!!
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #370 on: August 24, 2009, 02:23:02 PM »
Grown from seeds in 2005 and after two years in the open garden I have the first
flowers on these Cyclamen graecum. They survived -24°C last winter!!!

Very impressive Thomas !!  :o
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #371 on: August 24, 2009, 05:39:53 PM »
Color variation in Cyclamen purpurascens -

Unfortunately my purpurascens don't flower satisfactorily - this means one flower here, another at a second plant and never in a bunch like C. hederifolium does.
Gerd
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Gerd  - And here is another variation, silver with green a Xmas tree centre.

I thought with such a cool summer here purpurascens would not flower so well but they have. Maybe next summer they will be shy.

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #372 on: August 25, 2009, 04:56:58 AM »
And here is another variation, silver with green a Xmas tree centre.

I thought with such a cool summer here purpurascens would not flower so well but they have. Maybe next summer they will be shy.

johnw

Wow, John, that's a great variation for C. purpurascens! Is it flowering size yet?
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #373 on: August 25, 2009, 12:52:17 PM »
a couple of cyclamen in flower at the moment

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #374 on: August 25, 2009, 01:16:43 PM »
Tony,

Lovely! (nice leaf on your purp too, John).  I'm fascinated to see the flowers on your rohlfsianum.  So different to mine here, which have petals which almost spiral (a feature I must admit I have always loved, as it is so much more pronounced than any other species that I grow).  I'd always thought it was standard for the species, but I guess it is just one of the flower forms.  The exserted stamen really do change the shape of the flower to the eye, don't they.  Very, very cool plants!!  Thanks.
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