Cyclamen 2009

[Melvyn Jope]

Melvyn thats very similar in flower to my post 373 which came from NW Crete,the Rhodope peninsula.I hesitated to call mine ssp candicum as I think it might  not be from the known area but I cannot see much difference

Tony I agree there does not appear to be very much difference in the photos and difficult to make a judgement unless you see the whole plant however I have spent many days on the Rhodopou peninsular since my first visit about twenty years ago and to my eyes every plant that I have seen is ssp graecum, my view may not be shared by others! I think the nearest known site to Rhodopos is at  Platanias.

Very nice indeed Melvyn. I take it they are outside, they wouldn't look so perfect in my wet garden.

David I dont think mine would be successful outside either, the plant photographed is growing under glass.

[Melvyn Jope]

Here most damages on Cyclamenleaves are caused by cutworms (Agrotis + Euxoa).

Replanting some Cyclamen seedlings I found among some Cyclamen rohlfsianum one lacking the typical reddish colour of the proliferation - could this result in a white flowering plant?
(seeds are from a normal pink one)

Edit: After searching in internet it is nearly impossible the seedling will be white as it seems there is only one white in cultivation?! http://www.cyclamen.org/rohlf_set.html  (this one has reddish flower and leaf stalks)
Nevertheless I am very curios how it will flower  

Hans I can confirm that the plant with white flowers has reddish leaf stems and the underside of the leaf is reddish as well. I  too had a seedling with apple green leaf stalks and the underside of the leaf was bright apple green without a trace of red, regrettably in my case the plant eventually had pink flowers so the lack of red colouration in the plant was not an indicator of the flower colour.

[Anthony Darby]

Here are three of my Cyclamen hederifolium Album. Two are growing in red granite chippings by the front of the house (west facing). The other is under next door's hedge at the back of the garden.

[Guff]

Finally finished my coum bed, sadly without any crocus mixed in. Had to make the bed smaller then I had wanted. I just didn't have the compost to do the original size of 16ft x 9ft, this bed is 5.5ftx 9ft. Planted 231 coum.

[Maggi Young]

You can always add the Crocus by spreading seed, though, can't you ?

[Rodger Whitlock]

Finally finished my coum bed . . .

Many years ago I discovered that cyclamen like the deep layer of duff that forms under coniferous trees. I've grown them succesfully under Thuja plicata (golden form), Picea glauca ("Alberta blue spruce"), and Cedrus deodara. However, they do not like being under Pinus contorta (lodgepole pine) - conditions seem to be too dry, so even Cyclamen hederifolium merely survives, and that none too well.

I superficially damp down the duff once in a while during the summer so young seedlings don't dry out totally, and every few years scatter ground limestone on the duff to keep it from becoming excessively acid.

Cc. coum, cilicium, repandum, libanoticum, and intaminatum enjoy these sites. I keep C. hederifolium out of them as it's tough enough to do well elsewhere and might swamp the frailer species. C. pseduibericum is an exception: it enjoyed being under Pinus contorta, but is now trying to decide if it likes conditions since those pines were removed.

[Maggi Young]

Interesting observations, Rodger.
Guff, is your new cyclamen bed under pines or simply top dressed with pine needles?

[David Nicholson]

Although I posted these last week they looked much better today so here they are again:-

Cyclamen cilicium, and
Cyclamen intaminatum.

I choose to grow most of my Cyclamen under glass (apart from a few C.coum and C.hederifolium) as they would be rapidly spoiled by the wet weather.

[Diane Clement]

Until now there are no flowering Cyclamen - but today I had to replant an older Cyclamen rohlfsianum in my garden. It grew in a rectangular corner of a trough, I was amazed how perfectly the tuber has used the space.  

 

Hello Hans A, you must be one of the few people on this forum who can grow C rohlfsianum outside.  A combination of warm summer and frost free winter experienced by few!  (I expect Oron can as well, although do you grow them in your fridge-box Oron?)

[Guff]

The bed is in my lower hard woods. The pine needles are to help keep heavy rains from washing the leaf compost/worm castings/sand away. Plus it looks nice and shows off the leaves better.

Maggi, I really wanted to add in crocus, but being 5 inches apart I thought there wasn't enough room. I may still add in a few crocus here and there to see how it worksout.

[Paul T]

Just to chip in some southern hemisphere observations...... Cyclamen coum, libanoticum, cyprium (I think... must check whether still is) repandum (first flower found yesterday) and purpurascens (last flowers for now) are in flower at present.  Buds appearing on balearicum too.

Just to show the other side of the world. 

[Guff]

Some more pictures.

[Gerdk]

Guff,
Beautiful show - I like this setting - and the plants obviously too!

Gerd

[vanozzi]

Hello People--could someone identify please this cyclamen flowing in with a pot of coum?
Is it repandum ssp peleponnesiacum?
Thanks--Paul Rumkorf

[Paul T]

Definitely a repandum, Paul, and the leaves look about right.  I'm never quite sure what the definition for ssp pelponnesiacum is though.