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Diane Clement

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #510 on: September 25, 2009, 07:39:40 AM »
Speaking of C. hederifolium, we planted a batch if various kinds of CS hederifolium seed on the 12th of December 2008.  Each variety is rather overcrowded in 3" square pots.  Tonight I noticed 5 hederifolium 'Nettleton Silver' seedlings are about to open flowers.  I've never had cyclamen bloom so early in life.  Is this usual for ex 'Nettleton Silver' seedlings?  Or should I blame Ian Young's recommendation of frequent  applications of sulphate of potash?  Nothing as good as the foliage of a 'Nettleton Silver' I got from Potterton & Martin has appeared amongst the seedlings, ...yet.   johnw 

I've had C coum flower in 10 months from sowing, that's my fastest.  But I have never flowered C hederifolium in the first year.
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #511 on: September 25, 2009, 07:44:20 AM »
I had purpurascens in flower 14 months after sowing.
Hederifolium took two years.
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #512 on: September 25, 2009, 09:34:25 AM »
I have received and sown seeds of Cyclamen leicolor in 2007 from a bulgarian botanical garden origin. I have found nothing about this species or ...??? Looking at the leaves now, I suppose it is a form (?) of Cyclamen persicum. What do you think about it ?
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Dom I've never heard of C. leicolor, even as a synonym, but yes it looks like persicum.  It will be interesting to see the flowers ...
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #513 on: September 25, 2009, 12:23:43 PM »
I've had C coum flower in 10 months from sowing, that's my fastest.  But I have never flowered C hederifolium in the first year.

Thanks all.  Strangely the coums of the same sowing are very slow this time round.

Most of the hederifoliums to flower seem to be white.

johnw
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #514 on: September 25, 2009, 12:52:50 PM »
I have received and sown seeds of Cyclamen leicolor in 2007 from a bulgarian botanical garden origin. I have found nothing about this species or ...??? Looking at the leaves now, I suppose it is a form (?) of Cyclamen persicum. What do you think about it ?
Dom

LEI Color is a commercial colour range (see: http://www.colorhunter.com/tag/lei/2 )  I don't think leicolor is meant to be a botanical name, but a garden name meant to suggest the wide range of colours in Cyclamen persicum.
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #515 on: September 25, 2009, 06:04:23 PM »
Thank you Martin. I found curious that a botanical garden proposed this with other wild plants ! Ashley, I hope they bloom this spring. Perhaps surprises, perhaps ordinary commercial plants ?????????? But I find they have nice leaves
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #516 on: September 26, 2009, 03:49:29 AM »
It would be cool if this leaf type stabilized on this purpurascens seedling.

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« Last Edit: September 26, 2009, 03:51:07 AM by johnw »
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #517 on: September 26, 2009, 05:44:40 AM »
Howdy All,

Just caught up with this topic.  Some crackers of Cyclamen in here, particularly the C. hederifolium Rosenteppich from Melvyn and all those wonderful mirabile, graecums and the rohlfsianums.  Some really beautiful leaf forms too, which I've not seen before.  Thanks everyone.  8)
Cheers.

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #518 on: September 26, 2009, 05:47:39 AM »
The bed is still putting on a good showing of flowers.

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #519 on: September 26, 2009, 10:07:23 AM »
That's a fine colony of hederifolium Guff, and a good range of leaf types.  
Clearly they enjoy the needle mulch which sets them off so well 8)

A rather promising purpurascens there all right John.  
Have you ever tried seed from Jan Bravenboer?  I've been delighted with the results.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2009, 10:11:03 AM by ashley »
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #520 on: September 26, 2009, 01:44:10 PM »
That's a fine colony of hederifolium Guff, and a good range of leaf types.  
Clearly they enjoy the needle mulch which sets them off so well 8)

A rather promising purpurascens there all right John.  
Have you ever tried seed from Jan Bravenboer?  I've been delighted with the results.

Ashley - I have perused his list many times and drooled over his Picco Rosso.

Any particular recommendations?

johnw
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #521 on: September 26, 2009, 06:42:52 PM »
It would be cool if this leaf type stabilized on this purpurascens seedling.
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #522 on: September 26, 2009, 06:56:57 PM »
Very nice John. By the way, I am told by friends who have teenage kids that the current expression is "straight out of the fridge."

Good to know Gerry and I'm sure there's a hand signal to go with that.  It meant dead when I was a teen.  :D

That leaf shape reminds me of a dwarf perennial plant I was given out west. I forget the name but it was a shiny green, grew on rock walls and cliffs in the southwest of England, looked like  Pilea peperomioides and died the first winter.  M..... or  O..... ??? ??? ???

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« Last Edit: September 26, 2009, 07:01:23 PM by johnw »
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #523 on: September 26, 2009, 10:30:15 PM »
@Guff - very nice view, I had to check twice you really are in NY and not somewhere in Italy ;)

@John, your C.purpurascens seedling is very interesting - I hope it keeps such leaves!
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #524 on: September 27, 2009, 03:05:03 AM »
Ashley, Hans thanks.

I'm very happy with the bed. If my new coum bed survives, my next goal is to have a bed with a couple hundred purpurascens. I do like purpurascens the best, the scent is amazing.

 


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