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Tony Willis

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #135 on: February 17, 2009, 02:12:19 PM »
What an amazing collection.

Here are three of mine

Cyclamen persicum
Cyclamen parviflorum
Cyclamen coum
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #136 on: February 19, 2009, 02:34:59 PM »
Erich Pasche's Cyclamen hill from today (C. coum Lake Abant)

- for comparison see Cyclamen 2008 - February 7th

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #137 on: February 19, 2009, 05:04:59 PM »
This is  the thread Gerd refers to...   http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1305.0

 here is last year's photo....
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #138 on: February 20, 2009, 08:30:16 AM »
Magnificent !!!
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #139 on: February 20, 2009, 11:40:55 AM »
Yeah, I remember... it is fantastic!
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #140 on: February 27, 2009, 04:29:51 PM »
first of the Cyclamen pseudibericum ssp roseum has started to flower
Chorley, Lancashire zone 8b

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #141 on: February 27, 2009, 04:58:04 PM »
This is very nice, Tony.

I think I caught a nice persicum last days in Tesco. ;D
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This deep purple coum is from Cycl. society seed, sown in 2007 (not by me), but my friend does not know the name. Can anybody help? (The plant is already mine  ;))
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #142 on: February 27, 2009, 05:34:06 PM »
Nice persicum Kata.  Shake it occasionally and it will give you seed too ;)

Elongated leaves of your second one suggest C. elegans or maybe a coum/elegans hybrid, but it can be hard to distinguish with confidence.  Lovely plant though 8)
Ashley Allshire, Cork, Ireland

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #143 on: February 27, 2009, 08:14:47 PM »
It seems to me more as Coum ssp caucasicum.
C. elegans has has more elongated petals and mouth but i don't exclude it of being an hybrid [Coum coum x caucasicum].

The plant is too developed already  to be C. elegans if it was sown in 2007, this species is much slower.
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #144 on: February 27, 2009, 11:04:32 PM »
Yes you could well be right Oron.  I have rather similar plants that came as elegans from the CS seedex, and I understand that caucasicum grades eastward into elegans.  However spring flowering is more consistent with caucasicum, as well as blunter petals as you say.   
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #145 on: March 01, 2009, 02:16:20 PM »
some more cyclamen in flower at bthe moment

Cyclamen pseudibericum ssp roseum
Cyclamen coum a pale coloured one
Cyclamen coum
Cyclamen parviflorum a pale coloured one
Chorley, Lancashire zone 8b

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #146 on: March 02, 2009, 07:10:07 AM »
Ashley and Oron, thank you!
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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #147 on: March 03, 2009, 12:08:02 PM »
Lovely selection there Tony. I particularly like your very pale pseuibericum roseum because it also has well marked foliage.

Its raining and windy here but I popped out and took a few pics. C coum 'Nymans' is very stable for me. The first pic is a pot of seedlings in flower, ie lots of tubers in the pot ( note the subtle use of baler twine to mend the frost damage ). Next a couple of 'Nymans' planted out.  Then a pot of C coum, Pewter Group, this is one tuber, then the same thing planted out.

The pewter group tubers are altogether more vigorous and make good commercial plants.  The Nymans doesn't fit the original description according to Chris G-W,cyclamen book, but comes so true from seed I think it should keep its cultivar status. I have been growing it for 14 years from seed from the AGS seed exchange and it hasn't changed in that time !

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #148 on: March 04, 2009, 08:03:06 AM »
So, we should ask John Lonsdale for the history of Lake Effect!
- why isn't it named ' lace effect' ?
Gerd

for our european friends who may not be familiar with the term, 'lake effect' is most commonly used to refer to weather generated by the Great Lakes, in eastern north america, specifically, heavier snowfalls which are common in some particular places 'lake effect snow' ..i'm not sure where john lonsdale is located, but ellen hornig would quite surely be in this zone;
luckily, when i lived in the east, i was in downtown toronto, the other side of the lakes, and for me, the effect of the lake was reduced snowfall compared to areas farther from the lake!

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Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #149 on: March 04, 2009, 10:51:08 AM »
Thank you Cohan!
John Lonsdale is located in Exton, Pennsylvania (Edgewood Gardens).

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