Cyclamen 2009

[Jo]

Lovely plant Maggi.  Its much hardier than was originally suggested. It's flowering in the garden here quite happily after all that snow n stuff.  I'm planning to plant out lots from the seedex's and see if it will get going properly and seed about.

[Maggi Young]

Good idea, Jo. We've been sprinkling seed outside with the same idea 

[Roma]

I must get round to trying C. pseudibericum and repandum outside as I have far too many in the greenhouse and still 19 pots of seedlings in the upstairs bathroom desperate to get into bigger pots.
Two attractive leaves and some flowers.
The Cyclamen repandum with the lovely red veining in the leaf should have been white but is nearer vividum in colour.
The pink Cyclamen creticum is from 2nd generation seed from a Cyclamen Society collection.  I have three pink, two with plain leaves.
The white Cyclamen creticum with very long petals is from seed from a Cyclamen Socitey collected plant.
Cyclamen pseudibericm roseum started off pink but quickly faded to white.   

[Roma]

Forgot the pseudibericum!

[Paul T]

Roma,

I love those first leaves, and the elegance of that long petaled creticum is quite striking.  And of course that wonderful white pseudibericum!!    All beautiful.

[Maggi Young]

Have I mentioned, or can you guess that Roma has a bit of a Cyclamen passion going on?? 

[Paul T]

No Maggi, I never would have guessed! 

[Maggi Young]

No Maggi, I never would have guessed! 

Just as well I told you then   
Another interesting thing about Roma.... do you know that if Tulipa sprengeri were worth it's weight in gold, that Roma would probably be more  wealthy than Bill Gates? 

[Diane Clement]

Nice creticum Roma, especially the pinkish one.  Do you have to protect them against the worst weather??  I never find them hardy here

[Maggi Young]

We've got a few C. creticum growing outside.... from seed......so far so good! There's a good darkish pink one which flowered over a very long period the last couple of years. We'll see how it has done this winter.....

[I.S.]

What about 'Cyclamen rependum Sm. var. rhodense   Meikle' (Endemic to Turkey)
I see this one also in Turkish flora.

Ibrahim

Grey Wilson says this sub species is restricted to Rhodes and Cos. I am not doubting that it grows in Turkey but am wondering if you have a location?

It would not be surprising to find it on the mainland given how short the distance is.

Tony, I couldn't evidence for location of this sub species but is writen that we have in Turkey.
http://biow.tubitak.gov.tr/present/taxonForm1.jsp?taxon=3976
And this is a srious webside.

[Paul T]

Howdy All,

A couple of hederifoliums that I have flowering at the moment......


This is a seedling that I rather like the look of the leaf markings.  Can't recall where this particular seed came from.  Still like it though. 





This I received as seed of Cyclamen hederifolium var confusum, but I have no idea whether this is correct.  The leaves are just emerging so I have included a pic.  Definitely a different leaf to any others I have, but not sure whether that is what makes it "confusum"?

[Gerdk]

Tony, I couldn't evidence for location of this sub species but is writen that we have in Turkey.
http://biow.tubitak.gov.tr/present/taxonForm1.jsp?taxon=3976
And this is a srious webside.

Ibrahim,
Commonly all Floras include plants from neighbourly territories (countries) - so this Cyclamen must not be found on Turkish mainland.
For instance Viola jordanii is mentioned in Flora Italiana although it occured not in Italy but in Menton/France - very close to the Italian border.

Gerd

[Oron Peri]

Howdy All,

A couple of hederifoliums that I have flowering at the moment......

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This is a seedling that I rather like the look of the leaf markings.  Can't recall where this particular seed came from.  Still like it though. 
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This I received as seed of Cyclamen hederifolium var confusum, but I have no idea whether this is correct.  The leaves are just emerging so I have included a pic.  Definitely a different leaf to any others I have, but not sure whether that is what makes it "confusum"?

Paul, No doubt it is hederifolium ssp. confusum, easily recognized by the thick glossy leaves and the form of the flower which is a bit more 'graecum' type meaning it doesn't have a narrow neck.
This is a much robust plant, i grow many plants of this ssp, some reach huge sizes.

[Oron Peri]

Roma,
Great plants in particularly the Pseudoibericum roseum

I try to grow all the repandum, creticum, balearicum, peloponnesiacum separately since they  hybridize with extreme facility, but its an impossible task since pollinators reach them every where.

In my opinion most of the  plants in commerce and in the seed exchange schemes   are allready hybrids in particularly the white flowering forms. [many are impossible to to tell which species they are]
It is even more confusing since many good leaf forms were introduced by the Cyclamen Society and so there are many creticumes [for example] that have the leaves identical to balearicum [typical spotted] etc. etc.


Ibrahim 
 C. Pelop. ssp rhodense wasn't reported growing in Turkey at lest not in the last decades, it would have been probably found by now with all the Cyclamen lovers that frequent turkey every year. But as Tony allready said it isn't impossible since Kos is very close to the Turkish coast line.