Cyclamen 2009

[Maggi Young]

  We've got a few C. creticum growing outside.... from seed......so far so good! There's a good darkish pink one which flowered over a very long period the last couple of years.

I get worse, I really do    We have tried both cyprium and creticum outside, without success so far... what we have had some success with is in growing Cyclamen repandum  outside in the gravel paths.   

I was a little surprised hearing of C creticum growing outside in the far north, and quite excited at the thought of a dark pink version, but thought you must have put a spell on them     

ya got me! Yup, it was just wishful thinking on my part!
 The repandum doing well enough outside is the nice dark pink one. Persevering with the others by seed.

[Tim Murphy]

Do you know anybody who has seen Cyclamen on Karpathos ?

I haven't ever talked about cyclamen on Karpathos with anyone, Hans, but I am at the Cyclamen Society spring show at Wisley this coming Saturday, so I will ask around.

Below are some photos of a few cyclamen flowering here at the moment:

1. A dark flowered form of C. persicum.
2. C. rhodium peloponnesiacum.
3. As above.
4. C. rhodium vividum.
5. C. repandum from Italy.
6. As above.
7. As above.

C. repandum from the island of Krk (Croatia) is not quite in flower yet. I'm presuming that this is where you've seen it in Croatia, Hans. I've seen some huge drifts of it in the north of the island. There are populations further south in the Paklenica National Park too. Have you seen those?

More photos tomorrow, weather and light allowing.

[Paul T]

Hans,

I love the leaf markings on that first repandum of yours (the one with the pure white flowers).  Great silver shading to it.  Tim's second last one is also pretty speccy.

Thanks for all the wonderful pics everyone.

[Hans J]

I haven't ever talked about cyclamen on Karpathos with anyone, Hans, but I am at the Cyclamen Society spring show at Wisley this coming Saturday, so I will ask around.

C. repandum from the island of Krk (Croatia) is not quite in flower yet. I'm presuming that this is where you've seen it in Croatia, Hans. I've seen some huge drifts of it in the north of the island. There are populations further south in the Paklenica National Park too. Have you seen those?

Tim :
It's would be great if you could ask around for Cyclamen on Karpathos

Yes -I have seen Cyclamen on Krk ( growing with Helleborus ) and I saw it also Paklenica National Parc .
I found C. repandum also growing in Montenegro .
From friends I know that these plants grows also on the coastline of Croatia.

[Hans J]

Hans,
I love the leaf markings on that first repandum of yours (the one with the pure white flowers).  Great silver shading to it. 

Paul ,
thank you for your interest 

[Sinchets]

Some shipwrecked Cyclamen hederifolium growing in woods in the Taigetos mountains. They were replanted safely away from the stream they had washed into after the pics were taken. The battery is a AA and was included for scale. Does anyone know how long it would take tubers to reach this size?

[Maggi Young]

From experience of hederifolium in cultivation, I would estimate about 40 to fifty years growth to reach that dinner plate size. We were given a couple of plants that size over twenty years ago that were fifty years old then. They may grow a bit faster in the wild, I don't know... but they would be venerable plants for sure.

[Sinchets]

Thanks Maggi- it must be a joy to see a plant of that size in full flower- I guess the ones we found have been lucky not to have been scoffed by wild boar 

[Maggi Young]

thankfully very few wild boar in these parts! 

[fermi de Sousa]

Thanks Maggi- it must be a joy to see a plant of that size in full flower- I guess the ones we found have been lucky not to have been scoffed by wild boar 

I guess that's how they got the name "Sowbread",
cheers
fermi

[Oron Peri]

Tim
Great plants,

I couldn't not notice the silver centered leaf of graecum behind?
and do you have there a repandum with variegated leaves?

The vividum with serrated petals is beautiful!!

[Otto Fauser]

Maggi and Simon , C. hederifolium will reach that size tuber in about 20 years here in my garden, there are many here , as it selfsows everywhere , no special diet given.

[Maggi Young]

Maggi and Simon , C. hederifolium will reach that size tuber in about 20 years here in my garden, there are many here , as it selfsows everywhere , no special diet given.

Wow! Otto, are you SURE you didn't make them any cake? 

[Tony Willis]

Simon

I have seen lots of hederifolium dug up by wild boar in the pelopennese which were huge.They were growing in very wet conditions on an open north facing hillside.I also saw a mother with piglets which was good.

Here are some of my various repandum. Sorry they are a bit scruffy but they sit neglected under the bench

Cyclamen repandum peloponnesiacum peloponnesiacum
Cyclamen repandum peloponnesiacum vividum
Cyclamen repandum repandum from Italy
Cyclamen repandum peloponnesiacum peloponnesiacum leaves

[Tim Murphy]

Tim
Great plants,

I couldn't not notice the silver centered leaf of graecum behind?
and do you have there a repandum with variegated leaves?

The vividum with serrated petals is beautiful!!

Hello Oron, the plant with the silver centre on the leaf is a really nice form of hederifolium. I think the variegated plant you refer to is one of my C. parviflorum going over. Quite a few of my stock plants look like this at the moment; they have been moved from one of the glasshouses to a polytunnel and whenever I move plants like this, often to a glasshouse or polytunnel just a few feet away from the one they were in, a completely new cultivation regime has to be established. Next season they will be fine.

I like the rhodium vividum too; that plant has the most intense red flowers of all of my vividum.