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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) 2009
« Reply #435 on: December 13, 2009, 09:28:50 AM »
Janis,
If Iris nezahatiae is newly described and the site was to be flooded/dammed I sure hope the species was growing in a few different places. Do you know?
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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) 2009
« Reply #436 on: December 13, 2009, 09:35:13 AM »
Janis,
If Iris nezahatiae is newly described and the site was to be flooded/dammed I sure hope the species was growing in a few different places. Do you know?


I just got reply from Tony Hall - the leading authority in Juno irises. By his opinion Iris nezahatiae is just a purple form of I. caucasica subsp. caucasica. I tend to agree with him.
Personally I didn't saw such colored caucasica's but between pseudocaucasica such colors I found in Soviet time on Talish mountains in Aserbaijan, I think that Arnis Seisums similarly colored pseudocaucasica's collected in Iran, too.
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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) 2009
« Reply #437 on: December 13, 2009, 10:41:27 AM »
great variations on one species Janis !
Fortunately, Iris specialists are not so crazy as orchids fanatics !!!
We'll get hundreds of differents species for each colour or form variation  >:( ::)
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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) 2009
« Reply #438 on: December 13, 2009, 03:19:48 PM »
Iris nezahatiae is named for the benefactor of the Botanic Garden....... a case of splitting for a greater good, I reckon!

 While that Iris and many other plants will be drowned by the dam, efforts have been made to rescue a number and I am told that most do grow in other areas and so will not be lost completely by the dam works, Pat.  :-\
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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) 2009
« Reply #439 on: December 13, 2009, 09:15:04 PM »
Thank goodness that many of the plants were being relocated before being flooded.
Hard enough to get to know all the arils let alone the junos too - we are always learning :)
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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) 2009
« Reply #440 on: December 14, 2009, 04:20:54 PM »
Might this iris be Iris nezhatiae ??
 We were shown that Iris recently in a talk by Robert Unwin, who also worked with  Adil GÜNER in Turkey, but I cannot recall if this is the one!  :-[


 Here is a note I got from Robert Unwin, along with one of his photos of the Iris nezahatiae.


" The iris is the new species I was talking about to you folks the other week.  It is named iris nezahatiae after the sponsor of the Botanic Garden in Istanbul.  I have included the link to a pdf of the paper that Adil has written on it.  I have attatched a photo I took of it for your comparison.  Hope that’s helpful.
Cheers,
 Robert   "

You can see the full file size of Adil GÜNER's paper here: http://journals.tubitak.gov.tr/botany/issues/bot-07-31-4/bot-31-4-4-0703-14.pdf

 but the file size is pretty large.... I have reduced it and if you save the link below, where the photo is, you'll find that a neater size!  ;)
 
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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) 2009
« Reply #441 on: December 14, 2009, 07:09:25 PM »
Thank's a lot Maggi !
Very valuable bibliography.
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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) 2009
« Reply #442 on: December 17, 2009, 07:50:41 PM »
Here is a picture of I. planifolia, photographed in NW Morocco last autumn.
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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) 2009
« Reply #443 on: December 18, 2009, 11:36:09 AM »
Here is a picture of I. planifolia, photographed in NW Morocco last autumn.

Kees, you had posted your picture in a thread from 2007, I have moved it here!
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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) 2009
« Reply #444 on: December 28, 2009, 02:34:42 PM »
 :o - missed so many beauties! Janis, Paul and Kees - thank you very much (again)! :D

Today found the first Iris persica in flower which had to resist very harsh conditions : strong wind, heavy rain, sun and changes of temperature from near 0ºC to more than 20ºC during the last days - so I think it looks still surprisingly well.
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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) 2009
« Reply #445 on: December 28, 2009, 03:03:59 PM »
Super photos all,
Hans, your I.persica looks fine given the range of temperatures it's experiencing.
In the garden her Iris svetlanae is just above ground but vanishes every other
day under the snow!
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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) 2009
« Reply #446 on: December 28, 2009, 03:11:19 PM »
Looks wonderfull Hans, and very strange colour §
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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) 2009
« Reply #447 on: December 28, 2009, 06:06:40 PM »
:o - missed so many beauties! Janis, Paul and Kees - thank you very much (again)! :D

Today found the first Iris persica in flower which had to resist very harsh conditions : strong wind, heavy rain, sun and changes of temperature from near 0ºC to more than 20ºC during the last days - so I think it looks still surprisingly well.

Excellent form!
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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) 2009
« Reply #448 on: December 29, 2009, 07:27:39 PM »
Fantastic Hans!
I see that the Irises were waiting until you came back in order to flower ;) ;D
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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) 2009
« Reply #449 on: December 30, 2009, 08:19:58 AM »
Miriam, you cannot imagine how right you are.  ;D ;)

Chris, Fred, Janis and Miriam – thank you very much for your kind comments. Iris persica is for sure one of my favourite Juno species because of the the size and the great variabilty (shown by Janis recently) - a pity it does not belong to the easy Junos to keep.

I am also a bit surprised about the early flowering this season: It started about 20 days earlier than last season (but not bad: two flowering periods in one year ;))
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