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Michal Hoppel
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Small Iris - help needed
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January 12, 2009, 08:10:38 AM »
Could anyone help me with identification of that Iris?
It might by another form of Iris attica? (maybe?)
Many thanks in advance.
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January 12, 2009, 08:53:35 AM »
Yes,
it looks like an attica.
Wim
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January 12, 2009, 01:35:20 PM »
and gorgeous Michal!
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January 12, 2009, 06:40:11 PM »
I'll swap a piece of my boring all yellow attica with you.
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January 12, 2009, 07:16:34 PM »
This is what my Iris attica looks like. It smells very sweet almost like fresh fruit
I did see an Iris pumila last year that looked very similar to your plant
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January 12, 2009, 08:10:30 PM »
Or if it is from a commercial or garden source, it could be one of several very neat little named forms of I. pumila. Looks small enough for a trough.
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January 12, 2009, 09:54:59 PM »
Lesley you're right, it could be I. pumilla too. My I. taurica looks like it also.
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Michal Hoppel
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Re: Small Iris - help needed
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January 13, 2009, 08:12:18 AM »
Our all-yellow attica is more pale than these, photo attached.
So, It could be I. attica, pumila or taurica, votes: 1:2:1
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Re: Small Iris - help needed
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January 13, 2009, 09:23:05 PM »
Dear Michal,
it is very difficult to differ between I. pumila ( incl. I. taurica), I. lutescens (syn. I. chamaeiris) , I. attica, and I. pseudopumila: Easiest way is to know about the origin.All members of these Eupogon have different chromosome numbers.I`m sure there are some intermediate relations too.
Have you recognized the yellow stripes on the leaves of the fist Iris ?
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January 13, 2009, 10:52:26 PM »
Iris chamaeiris
(syn. lutescens) will always be taller than Michal's little one. And I think
attica
will always have tucked under falls, as in Mark's picture.
I. pumila
, does not always have these and it is especially a quality looked for in the hybrids or selections of pumila as they're viewed from above and so are thought to be better if the falls are spread out and the colouring visible.
What yellow stipes are you talking about Gerhard? It occurred to me that the little one at the top of the page may be slightly virused, the leaf colour not quite clean and even.
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January 13, 2009, 11:35:12 PM »
I thought it might be virused from the leaves. I also think it is a hybrid. I have seen lots of these small irises in quantity in the wild and there has never been a yellow that bright.
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Re: Small Iris - help needed
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January 13, 2009, 11:59:17 PM »
Here is a crop pic of the leaves in Michal's first
Iris attica
? photo
on closer inspection there does look to be a virus like striping in the leaves, doesn't there?
What a pity and the plant looks otherwise to be in good health... growing well and lots of flowers....
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Re: Small Iris - help needed
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January 14, 2009, 07:55:53 PM »
Many of these little - and not so little - bearded hybrids have virus in them, inevitable I suppose with the age of some and the fact that they have all been in and out of many nurseries and gardens in their lifetimes. Even from commercial sources, one frequently gets virused plants. While they don't look good, it never seems to affect either the vigor of the plant in general, or the floriferousness.
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Re: Small Iris - help needed
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January 14, 2009, 10:53:48 PM »
This is very interesting.
In this case Michal is trying to find out the name of an Iris.
So he shows a picture of a beautiful plant.
The experts don’t know what it is, and are telling the “poor” Forumist that his plant is virused.
Solution: problem solved.
What a terrible bunch of people in this Forum.
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Re: Small Iris - help needed
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January 15, 2009, 01:15:25 AM »
But should we see a plant which may have a virus and make no mention?
Supposing we have a name for Michal's Iris... will that be a comfort to him if it has a virus and that virus spreads and kills all his other plants?
I wouldn't like that for myself
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