Fritillaria 2009

[gote]

There is absolutely NO answer to that ... !!!   

Well, the obviously know nothing about safe sex, do they!

No fortunately they do not. I also kill a surprising number in pairs.
Göte

[gote]

Here is a bulb that has appeared in my garden in a dry spot under an ornamental cherry. i think it must have been thrown out with some old potting compost and is not one I have ever flowered.I think it is a frit but would be glad of any ideas.

It resembles a very robust form of F maximowiczii (spelling??) I suggest a look in Flora of China (Use google i do not have the URL in my head)
Göte

[gote]

PS
Is it not amazing what we try to throw away  
Göte

[Maggi Young]

Janis that is a very fine robust form.

No lily beetles here yet. They appeared for the first time two years ago.

Here is a bulb that has appeared in my garden in a dry spot under an ornamental cherry. i think it must have been thrown out with some old potting compost and is not one I have ever flowered.I think it is a frit but would be glad of any ideas.

Looks like a F. affinis tristulis to me, Tony.

[Tony Willis]

Maggi that is what I first thought but I have looked at pictures on Calphotos and although similar it does not really fit.My flowers have never opened like those on affinis.Perhaps its a new sub species!! Gote suggested a Chinese species but I have never had a Chines frit although it could have come in as something else when I bought from China.

[Sinchets]

Tony this is the one Gote suggested
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200027638 and
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=60541&flora_id=2

[Tony Willis]

Simon thank you.

it is very difficult to see,it is under a cherry in the middle of a bed.I had to hold the camera at arms length to photograph it,so close observation is not easy. perhaps I will dig it up when it starts to die down and put it in a pot for next year.

[Sinchets]

Noooooo! It looks happy where it is! 
Down with pots!!
F.maximowiczii looks to have tendrils on its leaves like F.thunbergii.

[Maggi Young]

I am pretty sure that it is a tristulis...... they do not open their flowers  as wide as an ordinary affinis, they hold them closer and the almost "toothed" edges, giving a look of a crocodile mouth is distinctive.... I'll see if I can track down some pix for you....

 Here we go, most of the flowers in these pix are fully open, but you can see, at the top of the last pic, some of the more closed buds, looking very reptilian, like Tony's flowers.....
 

 

 

[Maggi Young]

Here's Tony's plant again for easier comparison...
 the shape of the "shoulders", the reptilian look to the bud and the golden colouring to the edges of the petals is just right.

[Paul T]

Maggi,

A while back there was an ID request where I commented that the flower was too square for affinis..... every affinis I have seen here looks like the ones you have just posted (i.e with the rippled edges and different shape), although with various amounts of markings to them and never as dark as those you've shown.  I never realised that those here were a particular "type" of affinis, so it is good to know that now.  Not sure if any of mine survive now, but I really must check and see.  The Frits have actually survived quite well a few years of neglect in pots.  I was surprised last year when I repotted them and found most of them had at least some form of bulb/bulbils in there still surviving.  F. affinis was however from memory one of those that didn't make it.    I rather liked the "toothed" edge as you called it.

Great stuff!!  Thanks for an accidental ID for me as well. 

[Maggi Young]

Paul, you may find these two affinis forms interesting to see....
 

[maggiepie]

 Here we go, most of the flowers in these pix are fully open, but you can see, at the top of the last pic, some of the more closed buds, looking very reptilian, like Tony's flowers.....
 

Maggi, those are absolutely gorgeous!!

[Tony Willis]

Maggi

I am sure you are right.Your second picture on post 278 is just right for the plant apart from my flowers not being fully open.This may be because we have had no rain for two weeks(unheard of) and they stopped developing.It is raining a little now.

Thanks for the help everybody

[Lesley Cox]

Tony, the foliage on yours definitely says F. affinis. That low whorl in the first picture is absolutely typical and as you see from Maggi's pics, the flowers come from the leaf axils.