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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #165 on: April 06, 2009, 03:38:22 AM »
Hi Armin,
Thank you, now I'm satisfied. Your Bombylius mayor is a fine alternative for the lacking carpenter bee.  ;D

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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #166 on: April 06, 2009, 07:01:31 AM »
Luit,

Relating your last picture of DHT 'Hatsuzakura' - it is not a mutation, it is rather a virus decease called Tulip Rust Tic. Plants infected with this virus show short white stripes at the edges of petals.

'Pusrissima' is one of my unfavourite Fosteriana tulips. I don't like its intermediate shape of flowers. It is natural, as this tulip is a cross of tulipa fosteriana (mother plant) with a Single Early tulip. Such tulips as 'Madame Lefeber'. 'Grand Prix' etc. with true fosteriana type of flowers are very appreciated by me.

Among new introductions I found very interesting Single Late tulip 'Moonlight Mist' with a new very elongated shape never seen among older introductions. It seems to be an interspecific hybrid with a wild tulip. It seems to be very new as I couldn't find any informationabout it in KAVB. Anyway, it highly attracted my attention .

I attache pics of DHT 'Hatsuzakura' in Japanese field and 'Monlight Mist'.
Zhirair, Tulip collector, bulb enthusiast
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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #167 on: April 07, 2009, 06:35:20 AM »
Zhirair it is possible that it is some virus, but the other possibility
is maybe more appropriate and it is so called “dry bulb mite”
(Aceria tulipae )
Tulips with this disease are more susceptible to virus, so your
thinking is not so strange.
Here is the next tulip you asked for:

Tulipa Darwin Hybr. Group Momotaro

On the last picture I show another one with the same signs
Luit van Delft, right in the heart of the beautiful flowerbulb district, Noordwijkerhout, Holland.

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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #168 on: April 07, 2009, 07:10:11 AM »
Dear Luit,

Again, thanks a lot for wonderful pictures. I do like DHT 'Momotaro'. It  somewhat resembles 'Hatsuzakura' having more solid colour.

Relating the decease;
I just judge according to the instructions in literature. Actually this decease hasn't occur among my tulips yet. The way to identify virused deceases for me is leaf symptoms. I carefully observe the leaves. If they look not healthy, so the possibility is high that the decease have virus origin. Anyway, I place all suspicious plants with an unknown symptoms for me to a quarantine area for further studies.

Dear Luit, what I wanted to ask you. If you come across to an exhibitor, who displays 'Temple of Beauty' and its sports, I would kindly ask you to clarify the difference bitween 'Blushing Beauty' and 'Blushing Lady'. I have been growing both of them for many years, but still cannot find out the difference between them. The other similar-coloured variety is 'Long Lady', but here I can see the difference. 'Long Lady' blooms paler and later on becomes darker comparing to 'Blushing Beauty'.

I grow 'Blushing Beauty' from 80s, but 'Blushing Lady' I obtained in late 90s from 2 different origins USA and Moscow. I even stared to think that my 'Blushing Lady' isn't true to name.
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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #169 on: April 07, 2009, 08:14:58 PM »
Some Tulips doing well in the garden :

Three from Janis' stable first :
1) Tulipa dubia beldersai - fully open in the sunshine but somewhat battered by the wind
2) Tulipa Vvedenskyi x mogoltovica 'Girlfriend'
3) Tulipa Vvedenskyi x berkariense 'Morning star'
4 and 5) Tulipa humilis albacaerulea oculata (hope I have that one right  ::))
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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #170 on: April 07, 2009, 10:48:48 PM »
Luc,
what a pleasure!
"Girlfriend" has beautiful leaves  :o and you got a nice clump of white T.humilis! 8)
Is your T. humilis var. pulchella "albocaerulea" reliable flowering and durable?
Best wishes
Armin

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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #171 on: April 08, 2009, 07:46:13 AM »
Thanks Armin !
I'm quite happy with the T. humilis.... - it's flowering ok and multiplying nicely !  :)
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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #172 on: April 08, 2009, 01:49:47 PM »
Well done Luc, some fine examples of tulips there- here's another from Janis- Tulipa x vvedenskyi 'Ranger' and a sideview of T. x vvedenskyi 'Girlfriend'- I am hoping mine will make a clump as good as yours one day soon!
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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #173 on: April 08, 2009, 02:21:28 PM »
Fine tulips Luc and Simon.  By comparison my vvedenskyi under glass are very out of character so must be liberated to the garden next year.
T. humilis albacaerulea oculata also dwindled dramatically for me after the first year but are gradually building up again.
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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #174 on: April 08, 2009, 04:05:10 PM »
Well done Luc, some fine examples of tulips there- here's another from Janis- Tulipa x vvedenskyi 'Ranger' and a sideview of T. x vvedenskyi 'Girlfriend'- I am hoping mine will make a clump as good as yours one day soon!

I'm very happy with Janis' vvedenskyi hybrids Simon - they're doing quite well : this little clump was 3 flowers last year - 5 this year  :D
Watch it in the coming week - it will change colour dramatically going to pinkish/orange ...  :o

Ashley,
I got my T. humilis etc... from M.B. and they flowered rather shyly for me last year - I got them out of the ground and they spent their summer in a paper bag in my potting shed... they seem to have liked that treatment.  ;D
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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #175 on: April 08, 2009, 06:30:12 PM »
I'd like to ask a question about tulips.
My tulips(Queen of the Night and Shirley) are about to bloom, but I don't know why they are too short while other tulips have more and longer leaves and still don't have flower bud.  I planted bulbs at October, but there is a week between all kinds.
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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #176 on: April 09, 2009, 11:25:16 AM »
Tulipa clusiana 'Lady Jane'.
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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #177 on: April 09, 2009, 12:31:05 PM »
Arda,
'Shirley' is shorter than 'Queen of Night' and blooms earlier. 'Shiley' usually gets up to 60 cm high, and 'Queen of Night' normally is 70-75 cm and even more. Tulips don't get their maximum heights when the wheather is too hot and there are not enough rains.

As to the others which don't show their buds;
I suppose they are newly obtained Dutch tulips. In my previous posts I already mentioned that most of the Dutch bulbs are applied with different chemicals, which slow down the growth and such bulbs bloom around 10 dys later than regular ones and always tend to split into several smaller bulbs not providing a satisfactory performance the following year .

Armin,

Tulipa vvvendenskyi x 'Girlfriend' is, indeed, beautiful variety. I have been grown it for over 4 years and enjoy it. It's only serious shortcoming is that it doesn't last long. Flowers loose their decorativeness in counted days even in our wet climate.
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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #178 on: April 09, 2009, 06:13:56 PM »
Thanks for the information, but rains were good and it is not that hot yet here.
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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #179 on: April 09, 2009, 10:20:21 PM »
As to the others which don't show their buds;
I suppose they are newly obtained Dutch tulips. In my previous posts I already mentioned that most of the Dutch bulbs are applied with different chemicals, which slow down the growth and such bulbs bloom around 10 dys later than regular ones and always tend to split into several smaller bulbs not providing a satisfactory performance the following year .

I have never heard about that. It's possible that the temperature in the export hall differs
from the best temperature where bulbs should be stored.
Applying chemicals would raise the costs unnecessary!
But if you buy pre-packed bulbs it is likely you don't get the best quality.
To get a big order of pre-packed bulbs the export trader has to go down with his price,
so it is obvious that he cannot pay the highest price for the best quality.
The competition is enormous in this trade!
Luit van Delft, right in the heart of the beautiful flowerbulb district, Noordwijkerhout, Holland.

Sadly Luit died on 14th October 2016 - happily we can still enjoy his posts to the Forum

 


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