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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #255 on: April 23, 2009, 07:54:05 PM »
Paddy- stolons and 'sinkers' I guess- but nice to know the T.saxatilis is a tough little thing- it will need to be here to get below vole level!
Hans- 8 years? Send some seed here and let the long growing season do its work. I think I will have them flowering in 3 ;)
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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #256 on: April 23, 2009, 08:49:24 PM »
Thinking if 3 years is enough? It took 3 years for T.schrenkii, but maybe this species is more of a weed ;)
maybe T.clusiana will be 4.
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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #257 on: April 23, 2009, 09:12:16 PM »
Hans- the T.clusiana are great so much variation between the 3 types- do you collect seed from them?
Luc- a lovely trio. T.vvdenskyi always wins for me though  :)
Armin- sorry I have another one for you- growing from a patch of Ornithogalum. I am sure it is a Tulipa humilis- but which one?

Hi Simon,
I don't have this cultivar but it looks to me as Tulipa 'Little Princess', a fiery gem of a dwarf tulip, listed as a cross between
T. hageri and T. aucheriana. (see also reply 217 and 223 on page 16 of this thread) ;)
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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #258 on: April 23, 2009, 10:21:10 PM »
Hans,
somewhere (RHS?) I read the main difference is the original found location and name registration. T.bakeri was first and therefore still widely used. You might be right to distinguish between the two species. Do you have a source?

Sorry Armin, actually I cannot give you a source - I think there are some doubts if this are really two species or not as Tulipa saxatilis seems to be variable (also in chromosome sets - diploid and triploid forms exist).
Horticulturally there seems to be a difference in the plants I bought as Tulipa saxatilis and Tulipa bakeri "Lilac Wonder" (even if the bigger wonder was "saxatilis") -  "bakeri" did not produce stolones and always had one flower - "saxatilis" produced stolons and produced often something more than one flower... ::)
Here some older pics.
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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #259 on: April 25, 2009, 10:45:04 PM »
Dear Luit, what I wanted to ask you. If you come across to an exhibitor, who displays 'Temple of Beauty' and its sports, I would kindly ask you to clarify the difference bitween 'Blushing Beauty' and 'Blushing Lady'. I have been growing both of them for many years, but still cannot find out the difference between them. The other similar-coloured variety is 'Long Lady', but here I can see the difference. 'Long Lady' blooms paler and later on becomes darker comparing to 'Blushing Beauty'.

I grow 'Blushing Beauty' from 80s, but 'Blushing Lady' I obtained in late 90s from 2 different origins USA and Moscow. I even stared to think that my 'Blushing Lady' isn't true to name.

Zhirair, I saw that the following tulips are registrated as sports of T. Temple of Beauty:
'Big Brother'
'Blushing Beauty'
'Blushing Lady'
'El Niño'
'Hocus Pocus'
'Perestroyka'
'Temple's Favourite'

I made pictures of the following:

Tulipa SLG Temple of Beauty 
Tulipa SLG [Tem.of. B.] Temple's Favourite 
Tulipa SLG [Tem.of. B.] Blushing Beauty                 
Tulipa SLG [Tem.of. B.] Blushing Lady                 
Tulipa SLG [Tem.of. B.] Hocus Pocus                 
Tulipa SLG [Tem.of. B.] Perestroyka

The difference between Blushing Beauty and Blushing Lady is very little. One start a little earlier and
there is a slightly difference in color. I think, when they get mixed, you will hardly know which is which :-\
Luit van Delft, right in the heart of the beautiful flowerbulb district, Noordwijkerhout, Holland.

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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #260 on: April 26, 2009, 08:35:27 PM »
Flowering wild at present, somewhere in Yorkshire, UK - Tulipa sylvestris. Colchicum autumnale grows in the same meadow.
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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #261 on: April 27, 2009, 03:37:30 PM »
I thought tulips were native to eurasia and asia. But this fact changed my idea though.
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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #262 on: April 27, 2009, 05:50:39 PM »
I cheat a little - this species was cultivated in the 1500s, and recorded in the wild (escapes) by 1790.
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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #263 on: April 27, 2009, 06:53:42 PM »
ah I see :)
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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #264 on: April 28, 2009, 07:47:05 AM »
Luit,

Again thanks for the photos of 'Temple of Beauty' and its sports.
'Temple of Beauty' is my most favourite tulip and I try to obtain and grow all its sports and sports of its sports. Currently I have all, besides 'Big Brother'. Additionally I also grow 'Long Lady' (sport of 'Blushing Beauty') and 'Deep River' (sport of 'Hocus Pocus'). Among these sports I am especially fond of 'Hocus Pocus'.

Indeed, 'Blushing Beauty' and 'Blushing Lady' look very alike and during several years of cultivation I still couldn't see any difference between them. My colleague from Moscow says that the yellow edge of  'Blushing Lady' in difference to 'Blushing Beauty' is somewaht darker, but again I can't fix it. The other thing is 'Long Lady', which has the same coloration and colour combination, but in its case the difference is noticable ('Long Lady' is paler).

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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #265 on: April 30, 2009, 06:22:27 AM »
In greenhouse is the peak of wild tulip hybrids (mostly with vvedenskyi blood) and juno irises. Aroids just follow.
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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #266 on: April 30, 2009, 07:25:24 AM »
Just wonderful, Janis.  Thanks for sharing this 'inside' shot. :D
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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #267 on: April 30, 2009, 08:18:46 AM »
Dear Janis,

Thanks for sharing this wonderful shot. I wish I had a such greenhouse, which would be very convenient to isolate my tulips during flowering period from bees.

I would be very pleased to see the photos of your greigii introductions 'Evening Fire' and 'Mountainns Glory' listed in your last catalogues; especially the shots where the flowers are in an open stage to obsreve the inside of the bloom and make a better idea about the flower shape (style of opening).

Please, show some photos if or when available.

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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #268 on: April 30, 2009, 11:45:59 AM »
Zhirair excuse my ignorance but I want to ask one more question.

Do you want to isolate your flowers in order to prevent bees making hybrids?

and which hybrids are sterile
thanks
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Re: Tulipa 2009
« Reply #269 on: April 30, 2009, 12:34:33 PM »
Dear Janis,

Thanks for sharing this wonderful shot. I wish I had a such greenhouse, which would be very convenient to isolate my tulips during flowering period from bees.

I would be very pleased to see the photos of your greigii introductions 'Evening Fire' and 'Mountainns Glory' listed in your last catalogues; especially the shots where the flowers are in an open stage to obsreve the inside of the bloom and make a better idea about the flower shape (style of opening).

Please, show some photos if or when available.


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