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Re: Galanthus for ID
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2009, 05:56:23 PM »
I agree with you Martin, but how about this one ? I don't think its a named one and doesn't key out in the book. Its a plicatus, its substantial and its leaves stay flat on the compost. Does it look like a named one anyone has seen before  ??? ??? ;D ;D

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Re: Galanthus for ID
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2009, 06:02:00 PM »
Jo, I'm sure you are aware but just in case there are 3 different snowdrops growing in your pot including a green tipped.
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Re: Galanthus for ID
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2009, 07:13:14 PM »
Wow Mark,

good eyesite ;), yes its a mixture of stuff and I am talking about the big one in the middle  ;D ;D  I can't believe you spotted the green tip before it opens. I think the whole lot are seedlings, once again a pic n mix a friend gave me. :D

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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2009, 07:17:47 PM »
Hi, the Big one in the middle as you describe is Galanthus plicatus var Byzantinus according to the books but yes perhaps also a seedling group cheers Ian the Christie kind
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Re: Galanthus for ID
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2009, 07:48:01 PM »
Jo, I'm sure you are aware but just in case there are 3 different snowdrops growing in your pot including a green tipped.

Here is the green tipped one open now, but not viridipice, and also an elwesii I was given. I thought its inner mark looks quite like a deer slot too. I must look up deer slot and see what it looks like.

Oh, and also Quadripetala which I bought labelled as such. Then discovered that MB doesn't recognise it as a var.  It is stable and has four perfect petals. It is rather olivey in colour and not particularly vigorous.

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Re: Galanthus for ID
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2009, 07:51:29 PM »
The inner mark of your elwesii matches the outers. It looks more like my (not) late form from Kath.
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Re: Galanthus for ID
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2009, 08:00:53 PM »
But now that I look on a different computer I can see a feint bridge joining the two marks.

Here's a good 'Deer Slot' at Colesbourne and the one they sold me
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Re: Galanthus for ID
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2009, 09:20:38 PM »
I think they're quite different in outer petal shape and the genuine one has a sharp inner mark, so I think Martin is right on this one. Don't try and put a name just cos its similar.   Shame, ' Deer Slot ' sounds so romantic. :(

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Re: Galanthus for ID
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2009, 12:10:05 PM »
Hi All

after my disappointing 'Hyde Lodge' at the end of last year (written about in the autumn thread)  :( - I now find another impostor from the same place.   >:(

The order arrived in excellent condition on March 4th 2008 with the label 'G. Fieldgate Superb'.  Today I have had the chance to go into the garden during day light hours and find this:

It is a nice looking thing and I am quite happy for it to be in my garden - but, unless I am pretty much mistaken, it is not £25 worth of 'Fieldgate Superb'!  ::)

Any one care to hazzard a guess as to what I have £25 worth of?

Cheers

John

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« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2009, 01:08:59 PM »
It looks very like 'Spindlestone Surprise'/'Primrose Warburg'
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Re: Galanthus for ID
« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2009, 01:19:41 PM »
It looks very like 'Spindlestone Surprise'/'Primrose Warburg'

Just what I was about to say, Mark. The Snowdrop Company was selling both last year, and they're very difficult to tell apart. Must have been a labelling mistake when preparing bulbs for dispatch. I'd contact Ron and ask him if he can help with the name. Maybe someone else got your Fieldgate Superb and has complained, so he can tell you what yours is?
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Re: Galanthus for ID
« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2009, 02:26:06 PM »
Mark, Sue Staines says that Deer Slot normally would only show the proper mark on one inner face - in a good year!  Anything more is a bonus.
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« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2009, 03:59:04 PM »
Mark, Sue Staines says that Deer Slot normally would only show the proper mark on one inner face - in a good year!  Anything more is a bonus.

That's a bit feeble, isn't it?  I see lots of wild snowdrops with a slotted mark on one face but I always assumed Deer Slot was better.
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Re: Galanthus for ID
« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2009, 04:41:17 PM »
The Book confirms that the separation of the apical mark is present on only one of the inner segments, so if nyone has a variant that has the separation on all inners, they are going to be, in Mark's words, rich rich rich. Maybe they could christen it Coin Slot. ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Galanthus for ID
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2009, 04:44:02 PM »
Mark, Sue Staines says that Deer Slot normally would only show the proper mark on one inner face - in a good year!  Anything more is a bonus.

That's a bit feeble, isn't it?  I see lots of wild snowdrops with a slotted mark on one face but I always assumed Deer Slot was better.

I think that is the way of the world Alan, as Steve rightly says anything better would be Coin Slot :-\
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