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Luc Gilgemyn

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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #105 on: March 12, 2009, 02:17:28 PM »
Hans  - I suggest you give the poor thing away...  ;D ;D  I know a good address...  :-X ;)

Without further joking - I do find it a wonderful flower Hans !  Remarkable colours - it seems to enjoy life !


Rafa,
Your sari are absolutely wonderful !  Thanks for showing !
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #106 on: March 12, 2009, 03:38:38 PM »
Quote from: Luc Gilgemyn on March 12, 2009, 02:17:28 PM
Hans  - I suggest you give the poor thing away...  ;D ;D  I know a good address...  :-X ;)

Without further joking - I do find it a wonderful flower Hans !  Remarkable colours - it seems to enjoy life !


Rafa,
Your sari are absolutely wonderful !  Thanks for showing !

Luc, you are so kind to offer a good home to the poor orphan! ;D 


I love  all the  Iris pages.... it is like seeing Haute Couture!  8)
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #107 on: March 12, 2009, 03:54:32 PM »
Quote from: Maggi Young on March 12, 2009, 03:38:38 PM

Luc, you are so kind to offer a good home to the poor orphan! ;D 


I love  all the  Iris pages.... it is like seeing Haute Couture!  8)

I know Maggi - I'm too kind ... everybody says so...  ::) :-X
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #108 on: March 12, 2009, 07:12:41 PM »
Iris bismarckiana-my favorite Israeli Onco species  :D
This species grows in the north of Israel and what is unique about this species (and what is distinguishing it from Iris hermona) is that it creates big clumps (up to 2.5 meters in diameter and even more!), but every fan of leaves is pretty remote from the other fans in the same clone.
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #109 on: March 12, 2009, 07:41:07 PM »
They are absolutely wonderful Miriam !
Stunning plants !
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #110 on: March 12, 2009, 08:50:59 PM »
Miriam,

that is fascinating! I've never seen any mention of this rhizomatous open-clumping in I. bismarckiana.  I've learned something new! ;D
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #111 on: March 12, 2009, 10:03:24 PM »
Quote from: Miriam on March 12, 2009, 07:12:41 PM
Iris bismarckiana-my favorite Israeli Onco species  :D
This species grows in the north of Israel and what is unique about this species (and what is distinguishing it from Iris hermona) is that it creates big clumps (up to 2.5 meters in diameter and even more!), but every fan of leaves is pretty remote from the other fans in the same clone.
Miriam, that sounds almost like a weed.. 8) for a difficult plant in culture.
Beautiful pictures of all these Irises during the last week(s).
Can only dream of them I'm afraid.
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #112 on: March 13, 2009, 07:23:23 AM »
Hans -your forbidden onco hybrid is still very beautyful ,don't dispose of it.
Miriam -I bismarckiana could be my favourite Israeli onco too , after > mariae and
lortetii -if this "noxious weed' should become a nuisance for you ,please deport
some to Australia !
       Otto.
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #113 on: March 13, 2009, 09:04:51 AM »
Another lot of stunning photos Miriam. So lovely to see them photos of all.
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #114 on: March 13, 2009, 09:33:40 AM »
Miriam for how long time has the plants been growing to make a 2.5 meter diameter? 10 of years or closer to 100?
I have no idea but that may influence the "weedeness" of it.
Are these Israeli plants in wider cultivation or just grown in nature?
I have truly enjoyed the plants but I bet that they are a million tims nicer live when seen in nature. 8)
Since I most likely never will I am happy to see them through the help of You all.


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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #115 on: March 13, 2009, 01:53:45 PM »
Thanks for your nice comments...the pictures are not from my garden, but in the nature.
it takes about 8-10 years to make a clump of 2.5 meters in diameter.
As it is a difficult plant to cultivate (as many Oncos), it is not common in culture (also because it is a protected plant by the law).
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #116 on: March 13, 2009, 02:44:46 PM »
Miriam

I would say much much more than 8-10 years.

Natural germination of this species [like most Onco.] is 2-3 years folowing 3-5 years to the first bloom.
Only after this phase plants would start to make a small clump. considering the relatively short growing season it would need a life time to make a 2.5 meters in diameter.
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #117 on: March 13, 2009, 03:05:11 PM »
Oron,
I meant that it takes 8-10 years from a mature plant already in flowering size.
I saw yesterday in an experimental field a 1.7 m in diameter clump and it took 5 years to get to this size from a single mature plant.
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #118 on: March 14, 2009, 02:22:06 AM »
Oh good my arils are increasing as they are designed to do - fairly slowly. Even though most aril species are protected, as is Iris bismarkiana seed, can it be exchanged between botanic gardens? If someone from outside of the native country wanted seed is there any legal way that they might get a couple. This sounds as if I am trying to get seed but the reason behind the question is genuine even though yes of course I would like to grow it. It is a queston that has been on my mind for a long time. I was able to get seed of some Israeli aril species from David Shahak in the late 80' and into the 90's. eg. atropurpurea, haynei, hermona and mariae. They would be protected wouldn't they?
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #119 on: March 14, 2009, 02:55:45 PM »
Hans, look at this
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