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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #360 on: May 06, 2009, 11:30:59 PM »
Super !!!  :P
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #361 on: May 07, 2009, 06:37:49 AM »
Simon,

the concensus on the Aril robin is korolkowi x an onco, probably an iberica, for 'Orion', as this cross was often remade by Van Tubergen. 'Dardanus' is most likely the same cross.

Hans,  I take it you already read this on the robin.
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #362 on: May 07, 2009, 07:28:58 AM »
Hi Hans was your plant collected from Iran as we have two clones one very similar and one that is even smaller
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #363 on: May 07, 2009, 07:47:41 AM »
Thanks Jamie and Hans- always good to know what genes are hiding in there.
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #364 on: May 07, 2009, 09:34:51 AM »
@Jamie, there was a very good article about Tubergens Regeliocyclus in the ASI Yearbook 2006 or 2007  ;) - ´Orion`is very similar to 'Dardanus`I grew.

@John, you are absolutly right about its origin!
 I am really fascinated how such a small plant can produce such a large flower - hope you will post a picture of your even smaller one.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2009, 09:37:53 AM by Hans A. »
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #365 on: May 07, 2009, 09:55:56 AM »
A wonderful form of Iris acutiloba ssp lineolata i received last year from a scandinavian grower, - I was surprised when I noted the bud a few days ago and even more when I saw the flower today - it is a  fine small/dwarf form with very dark standards- so I want thank here the giver very much again for this stunning plant!  :D

Stunning little gem Hans !!!  :o
This one can't look over your wall..  ;D
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #366 on: May 07, 2009, 06:55:18 PM »
Flowering today- Iris korolkowii (?)
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #367 on: May 07, 2009, 07:10:33 PM »
It's lovely Simon. If you don't have Mathew's 'The Iris' let me know and I'll post what he has to say about it unless one of the experts is able to say more.
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #368 on: May 07, 2009, 07:14:36 PM »
The plant look's really very small for I. korolkowii var. violacea, but it could be culture treatment....
anyway, very nice flower  :)
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #369 on: May 07, 2009, 07:22:49 PM »
I think it is Iris paradoxa x Iris korolkowii, beautiful plant

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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #370 on: May 07, 2009, 07:35:57 PM »
Fred and Rafa, I was surprised when it decided to flower, some of the plants had a bad year last year, as they were undermined by voles looking for bulbs. I have had I.korolkowii and korolkowii violacea in the past and wasn't sure if it was one of these.
Thanks David, I don't have that book.
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #371 on: May 07, 2009, 07:52:37 PM »
Simon, will PM you.
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #372 on: May 08, 2009, 12:46:42 AM »
A right little Bobby Dazzler! ;D (Where does that come from anyone?)
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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #373 on: May 08, 2009, 01:41:14 AM »
great colour combination.
Cheers.

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Re: Oncos 2009
« Reply #374 on: May 08, 2009, 01:47:20 AM »
Lesley,

After a bit of snooping...... came up with a couple of different things that the term 'bobby dazzler' refers to.....

One explanation for the origin of the term is given in 'A Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English' by Eric Partridge:

    In the heyday of Cycling Clubs the police would lie in wait for their dusk return. Those without lights got in the middle, those with the new fangled very bright acetylene lamps rode on the outside, their lamps were the Bobby Dazzlers.

(in case you aren't aware, bobby is a slang term in the UK for a policeman.)

To be honest that sounds a little far fetched to me, and the entry is marked se non è vero, è bene trovato so draw your own conclusions.

The term was featured by Australia's ABC Classic FM on its Word of the Day slot with a somewhat more credible explanation.. bobby derived from "bobbish", an 18th century word for healthy or spritely and dazzler coming from the idea of someone being dazzlingly beautiful.


And also...

Bobby-dazzler means something striking or excellent. The earliest citation in the full Oxford English Dictionary for bobby-dazzler is 1866, and is interesting in itself. It says: what a Lancashire man would call a regular bobby-dazzler, a Cornishman would call a regular morgan rattler. (Morgan rattler is a strange one well have to leave for another day.) So, where does this expression bobby-dazzler come from, and how come dazzling is a property particularly belonging to Robert (rather than, say, John or Paul or George)? The verb to dazzle came into English in 15th century and seems to come from an Old Norse word meaning to confound or confuse. This rapidly came to mean to bewilder, confound or confuse the eyes or the vision. Anyone so attractive as to do so came to be called a dazzler a word that turns up around 1800. On the other hand, behind bobby (used as an adjective) is an 18th century word bobbish meaning in good health, in good spirits, in good humour. So anyone who is both sparkling with good health and good humour, and attractive to the eye, is a bobby-dazzler.


Definitely not authoritative info, but some info none-the-less.
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Paul T.
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