Oncos 2009

[Rafa]

Hendrik, what a lucky man!

[arilnut]

Here is the parentage of Zizah'

John

ZIZAH  OGB+  (Lois Rich, R. 1982).  Sdlg. R76-3C.  AB, 15" (38 cm), E.  S. light orchid, veined deeper; beige gold midrib, styles and style crests; F. tan brown, flecked maroon; indefinite maroon red signal; brown beard.  R72-19F: (R64-1C: ((Artemis x I. lortetii) x Judean Cream) x I. pumila,  'Rozaliae-Prodan') X R74-125G: (Quinta x (R69-128 x Welcome Reward)). Melrose Gardens, 1983. 
 

Hi everybody, and thank you for such amazing plants.
Here in south-east France, the season begins with hybrids :

'Zizah', classic and of unknow parentage

and my own Iris sari x kirkwoodii (seedling of 1993 : at that time, I didn't know oncos are strictly allogames...) [I've just put pictures of the parentage here http://plantes-passion.forumactif.fr/les-iris-f21/oncocyclus-2009-t3052.htm#33230 ]

[arilnut]

Jamie,Hans, all.  I believe Vera is stolonifera X korolkowii.

John B

Hans,

assuming it is a primary hybrid, you are most likely correct, but it could be a cross with a korolkowi hybrid and I. hoogiana, which would explain the dark signal-like area on the falls.  Even a primary with hoogiana would give either 33 or 44 chromosomes.  No reason to discount it as a pure regelia hybrid, or do you see something there?

[arilnut]

Hello Zhirair. The forced germination method works very well with the Onco's. I have 30+ that came back this fall
from germinating last spring.  Right now I have 1 paradoxa f. atrata 1 inch tall from cutting on October 2 and
1 acutiloba lineolata just poking up from cutting in November. Tonight I will pot out 2 atrofusca and
3 kirkwoodii from the fridge.

John B

Lesley,
You're right. It is iris paradoxa f. mirabilis.
I still don't take a risk to grow oncos from seeds. naturally it takes several years for the seeds to germinate, you know. As to the other methods (for example embrio), I am not experienced, but I think I should try it one time.

[BULBISSIME]

Many thank's John, for the parentage of ZIZAH !
I'll send it to my friend Biodiversité, He'll be very happy to get it, like me 

[Janis Ruksans]

This one marvellous Iris I got under name I. iberica elegantissima. It was collected by ARGI expedition in Syria. It looks very different friom my other ibericas, but I'm not very clever in onco-iris taxonomy. Would be gratefull for your help in correct identification.
Janis

[Regelian]

I agree with you, Janis, it doesn't resemble I. iberica elegantissima, which is a bi-colour blossom.  Also, there is no clearly defined signal, typical for all I. iberica types.  I would think it was I. kirkwoodii or related, which are from Syria.

I'm sure someone can be more exact.  Miriam, Oron, Hans, Rafa?

[ranunculus]

Image captured at an AGS Show ...

[BULBISSIME]

For sure it seems to be I. kirkwoddii, and not I. iberica ssp elegantissima

[Janis Ruksans]

Jamie and Fred,
Many thanks!
Janis

[BULBISSIME]

Ranunculus, your iberica ssp elegantissima is also not the standard form !
Never seen such a color before, may be from special locality or hybrid

[Janis Ruksans]

I just got last Curtis' Botanical Magazine where two new Irises are described, between them one belongs to onco irises - it is new subspecies of  Iris acutiloba  - subsp. longitepala. A year ago I was in Iran and our group found this plant, so I'm lucky having its pictures which show some minor variability - just in shape and color of signal blotch.
Flowers of this beautiful plant is surprisingly large and from fast driving bus window at first moment I thought that its flowers are peaces of polyethylene bags rubbish on low roadside shrubs. Few km later we had another stop where our group guide saw this iris a year before. Now we found only very large field with a lot of small halls - all irises were dug out! Export of planting material and seeds from Iran is hardly forbidden and such huge amount can't be hided in baggage, but Iran is famous for its corruption level, too.
Janis  

[Janis Ruksans]

Ranunculus, your iberica ssp elegantissima is also not the standard form !
Never seen such a color before, may be from special locality or hybrid

I think it is flashlight or artificial light effect on color.
Janis

[BULBISSIME]

Wonderfull plants Janis !
I can't understand how somebody could dig up all plants from an area  and completly destroy a wild place !!!
Regarding the iberica ssp elegantissima, I don't think it's only a pisture problem !

have a look on the standard form in our french forum http://plantes-passion.forumactif.fr/les-iris-f21/oncocyclus-2009-t3052-30.htm
The standards should be white....

[ranunculus]

Hi Fred and Janis,
The image was captured at an AGS Show at least five or six years ago and was probably the first time that I had seen this gem ... the plant received a First prize at the show and the judges didn't query the label (but this is not at all unusual)!