Allium 2009

[Gerhard Raschun]

I have visited Rhodos in May with my family. It was too late to see the main flowers, but we have found some Allium spec. It wasn`t possible to find information about the Allium spp. on Rhodos, but there shouldn`t be a lot: A. rhodiacum, A. archeotrichon, A. hirtovaginatum, A. chalkii, A. subhirsutum...

Here are picts of 2 species in flower, so I hope somebody can help with ID

Allium spec. 1 is about 1m tall
Allium spec. 2 reach only 10cm

[Oron Peri]

Gerhard,

The second species is probably A. junceus, a small species from the Eastern Greek Islands, Cyprus and SW Turkey.

The first photo is similar to A. ampeloprasum [ a common species,growing through all the E. Mediterranean] but diffcult to say without seeing the leaves and knowing if it produces bulbils.

[Stephenb]

Some Alliums in my garden yesterday. Please give me any opinions on identification…
1)  Allium ampeloprasum babingtonii: Babington’s Leek – a UK native
2)  Allium ampeloprasum “Elephant Garlic” – I thought I’d lost this, but it seems to have just taken 2 or 3 years to get to  a decent size again
3)  Allium albidum – flowering for the first time; hopefully I’ve finally succeeded with this one?
4)  Allium kermesianum – not sure that this one is correct?
5-6) Allium spp – I’ve had this one for a number of years. Small with white flowers. Any suggestions?
7) Allium sikkimense

[Stephenb]

A few more:

1) Allium carinatum pulchellum
2) Allium carinatum pulchellum (from with bulbils)
3) Allium flavum tauricum – anyone know how to separate this from the species (NARGS seed, but not much colour variation in the flowers)
4) Allium cyaneum

[Stephenb]

I haven't seen this before, but maybe it's normal - both of my flowering Allium scorodoprasum ssp scorodoprasum have put up a second tier with bulbils and flowers inn both tiers, just like the Allium x proliferum cultivar "Catawissa" does (Walkabout Onion -as it literally moves around, albeit very slowly)

[Rafa]

A couple of caucasian allium

[gote]

It is easy to see that Allium is a large genus with all these different ones posted.
Allium presumed to be acuminatum flowers for the first time - a really dark violet. = aciphyllum
Allium ovalifolium var leuconervum is aloready over when I write this.
Allium ovalifolium is still flowering. This year it is slightly pinkish.
The blue one I got as cyanemum but it is 30 cm high - Beesianum??
Sündermann once said to me that Allium flavum looks like a piece of fireworks. I think he was right.
Allium pulchellum (Allium carinatum L. subsp. pulchellum Bonnier & Layens) flowers at the same time and has a nice white form. they go well together.
Cheers
Göte

[johnw]

Göte  - The colour of the presumed Allium acuminatum is astounding.  It reminds me of some of the newer Agapanthus selections.

You have a lovely collection Alliums there.

johnw - +32c threatened today.

[Ragged Robin]

Allium presumed to be acuminatum flowers for the first time - a really dark violet

This dark violet Allium is a fabulous colour, Gote, the range shown is so varied in ways of flowering - hard to pick a favourite - Allium pulchellum is very attractive too.

[gote]

Oops Sorry  NOT acuminatum, aciphyllum. It does not fit the description entirely anyway.
The colour is difficult. It is actually slightly darker and just a little more towards red than it came out.
I am glad you appreciate it. I hope it will set seed for the exchange.
Göte

[Stephenb]

A couple of caucasian allium

Thanks for the preview - I traded both of these with Sergey B in 2007 and are due to flower here next year...

[Stephenb]

Nice Alliums, Gote - never seen aciphyllum before and I particularly liked the ovalifolium leuconervum - is that the nearest one gets to a variegated Allium? Hope you put seed of the ovalifoliums in to the exchange too....

[Rafa]

Stephen, I think I also grow some allium from your collection in Norway like A. uratense, A. murrianum...

[Hristo]

Grwinmg on limestone slopes near Sliven;
Allium moschatum

[Ragged Robin]

Really pretty, Hristo, love the veining on Allium moschatum - next year I definitely want to grow more alliums