Allium 2009

[Janis Ruksans]

With me at present blooms Allium rupestre, collected in Georgia (Caucasus) at alt. 715 m, at Mcheta, just near Tbilisi, on mountain steppe formation. Still are blooming color forms of Allium thunbergii.
Janis

[galanthophile]

Fermides your allium looks very much like ledebourianum. Lovely!

[dominique]

Nice A. rupestre Janis. Thank you
I received 4 years ago Allium scilloides seeds. First flower now, but I find that it looks like Allium chamaemoly. Both are in bloom now, never so early for chamaemoly. I love this little Allium for its christmas blooming time.

[David Nicholson]

Right you lot, you have a lot to answer for

I grow very few Alliums and apart from what I read and learn here I know little about them, but I have resolved to begin to put that to rights notwithstanding my lack of space to be involved in growing anymore genera

I have seed of the following:-

Allium bolanderi
   "    cupuliferum
   "    elburzense
   "    nevskianum

Should I sow now and put them outside to the weather or should I wait until later in the new year please?

[fermi de Sousa]

notwithstanding my lack of space

Allium bolanderi
   "    nevskianum

Should I sow now and put them outside to the weather or should I wait until later in the new year please?

Hi David,
I've grown the above two from seed sown in autumn/winter and left outside with germination in the spring.
A. bolanderi is a little cutie and won't take up much room.

This is Allium sphaerocephalum


And this is  A. flavum  tauricum grown from NARGS Seedex seed a few years ago


cheers
fermi

[Sinchets]

I agree- sow them so they get the full winter treatment in order to germinate in spring. 

[Janis Ruksans]

Right you lot, you have a lot to answer for

Allium bolanderi
   "    cupuliferum
   "    elburzense
   "    nevskianum

Should I sow now and put them outside to the weather or should I wait until later in the new year please?

The best time to saw Alliums is autumn. I'm leaving them in unheated greenhouse, but with you the best will be outside. When they will germinate - bring under glass to keep moisture under control. In first year good watering will form better size, but drainage must be excellent, too, especially for last two, cupuliferum is something more tolerant. Best grower is nevskianum - excellent here outside, too.
Janis

[TheOnionMan]

Hello allium admirers,

I just signed up on this forum, and the Allium thread is terrific... can't wait to start participating.

I particularly liked seeing fine photos of Allium in Israel, where there are some fine species... tel-avivense, erdelii, hierochuntinum, libani, nigrum (Israel form has amazing black-red ovaries, different than European forms), carmeli, and the mind-blowing A. rothii.  Does anyone have a photo of A. sannineum, a dwarf alpine species from Mt. Hermon with blue flowers; I have never seen a photo of it.

In earlier messages in this thread, I saw an unidentified yellow-flowered allium with very narrow tepals... looks just like Allium hookeri var. muliense, which has been going around as an Allium spa (species) from China for a few years.

To kick off my participation on this snowy day, here's a few photos of Allium crenulatum 'Olympic Sunset' flowering in my garden, a selection of a beautiful alpine allium from the Olympic Mts of Washington State, given to me by Jerry Flintoff. (Not sure if I'm doing the file attachment thing right, bear with me if photos don't upload correctly).

Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, near the New Hampshire border, USDA Zone 5
antennaria@charter.net

[TheOnionMan]

Only one of 3 photos uploaded, so here's a second photo of Allium crenulatum 'Olympic Sunset' at earlier anthesis.

Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, near the New Hampshire border, USDA Zone 5
antennaria@charter.net

[Janis Ruksans]

To kick off my participation on this snowy day, here's a few photos of Allium crenulatum 'Olympic Sunset' flowering in my garden, a selection of a beautiful alpine allium from the Olympic Mts of Washington State, given to me by Jerry Flintoff. (Not sure if I'm doing the file attachment thing right, bear with me if photos don't upload correctly).

Excellent variety, Mark. Mine plants are much paler in color.
Janis

[Maggi Young]

Mark,

 Welcome, hope you got my personal message to greet you?

To upload multiple images, click on the additional options button to display up to ten boxes to load extra pix.....
Here's a screen grab, which also shows you how to include an image in the body of your text.... you need the attachthumb=  and a number( 1 to 10!) in square brackets.... where you want to p[lace the text.



 Click on the pic to enlarge......

[Stephenb]

Glad you made it over here, Mark and excellent picture to start with!

Here's a couple of pictures of hookeri I took in Southern Sweden last year.

The first was labelled var muliense in the Goteborg Botanical Gardens (I don't think it is though - sorry bad quality) and the other in Åke Truedssons garden in Malmö in Sweden. Åke told me that he had seen this species cultivated for food on a visit to China.

[TheOnionMan]

Hi Stephen, glad I'm here too, it's been a long and wonderous trip (several hours perusing the SRGC site and threads... good stuff).

Your photo does indeed look like Allium hookeri.  Per the Flora of China
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200027488
the only difference between the two varieties is the flowers are white in the type species, and greenish yellow to yellow in var. muliense.  This plant had been going around misidentified as Allium chienchuanense, but that species has oblong-elliptic tepals unlike the narrowly linear tepals on the subject allium.

Here's a close-up photo and a general view of my plants taken this year.


Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, near the New Hampshire border, USDA Zone 5
antennaria@charter.net

[Maggi Young]

Well, Stephen, why am I not surprised to learn you had a hand in steering Mark in this direction? It is good to see him back "around" the SRGC after some time away.... wondering around lost, looking for alliums, no doubt?  

[Regelian]

Mark,

welcome aboard.  This is one of the most amazing forums I've ever encountered.  You're gonna love it!

Nice clone of A. crenulatum!

Jamie Vande