Allium 2009

[John Mitchell]

Anyone got an idea of the name of this Allium it was collected in Iran in 2005 up by the North near Orumiyeh by the Turish border, any suggestion welcome

[Ian Y]

Anyone got an idea of the name of this Allium it was collected in Iran in 2005 up by the North near Orumiyeh by the Turish border, any suggestion welcome

John, I have a picture of an allium very similar to yours that I will put on next weeks bulb log - a real wee beauty.
I think it is Allium derderianum check it out.

[Paul T]

Wow.  Love those leaves and love the flower striping and dense head.  Very, very nice Allium.

[John Mitchell]

Anyone got an idea of the name of this Allium it was collected in Iran in 2005 up by the North near Orumiyeh by the Turish border, any suggestion welcome

John, I have a picture of an allium very similar to yours that I will put on next weeks bulb log - a real wee beauty.
I think it is Allium derderianum check it out.

Thanks Ian i will check it out is A bodeanum quite similar i have been trying to check it out today mine field !!

[Maggi Young]

John, I've been following the bodeanum debate earlier in this thread..... Janis feel the "correct" plant of bodeanum has very narrow leaves....... confused? You bet I am!
 

[John Mitchell]

thanks maggie confused.com !!!!!!

[Sinchets]

Can I pick up a spanner and through it into the mix, by suggesting an Allium continuum?

[Sinchets]

Flowering at the moment
Allium hollandicum and Allium nevskianum

[Lesley Cox]

I adore the second one. I asked a question in the Southport show pages about trimming the leaves on a show exhibit. I guess this pic show why the leaves need trimming, but still an incredible plant.

[Luc Gilgemyn]

I couldn't agree more !  A super onion Chris !!!

[Sinchets]

Sadly most of this type of Allium had dead leaf tips this year. We had a very dry start to the spring with a lot of heat in April. The 'drum-stick' types put their leaves up later and seem less affected.

[David Nicholson]

Here is Allium 'Purple Sensation', one of a group of five in the garden from garden centre bought bulbs. My label says Allium latunense which I must have taken from the packet they were bought in but Google gives me two other choices Allium aflatunense or Allium x hollandicum. Can anyone sort me out please.

[Onion]

David,
they look like the same as Simon posted on May 17. Allium x hollandicum.
Two years ago a bulb grower told me that the only real Allium aflatuense he know, from natural source,  in western Europe grow at Kew.

[Regelian]

David, Uli,

I grow both in the garden and they are very different plants.  What I have as A. xhollandicum is a steely lavender in colour, somewhat more robust in habit and blooms about a week later than A. aflatuense 'Purple Sensation', which is somewhat more gracile and has a flatter flower head.  There is, also, a plant running about as A. rosenbachianum, which looks like Purple Sensation, but isn't.  Just to confuse the matter.

Attached are the two plants I have.

[Onion]

Jamie,

now I'm confused. Does A. aflatuense 'Purple Sensation' come true from seed? Your 'Purple Sensation' look the same as mine in the garden. But I don't plant them!! They have multiplied near the "mother-plant" and looks the same way.
I learned, that seeds of cultivars have a variation in the descendants. Or is 'Purple Sensation' a cultivar coming true from seed?