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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #120 on: July 14, 2009, 05:15:05 PM »
 :) The flower umbel is about 2cm across on a 15m tall plant, so it's one of those plants where you have to kneel down to enjoy it.
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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #121 on: July 14, 2009, 05:19:32 PM »
Flowering now:
Allium farreri (?) from seed from Vojtech Holubec collected Sechuan, China 4100m.
Is this A.beesianum?
I don't think it is A, beesianum, Simon. Your farreri ?  is a  lovely little thing.
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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #122 on: July 14, 2009, 05:49:14 PM »
:) The flower umbel is about 2cm across on a 15m tall plant, so it's one of those plants where you have to kneel down to enjoy it.

Are 15m tall plants allowed on a rock garden forum?

How big are you then if you have to kneel down to enjoy it ;)

Certainly doesn't look like farreri (A. cyathophorum farreri) either - mine are almost over now (see below for a couple of pictures taken 5 minutes ago). You could try keying it out using Flora of China, in which case, good luck...



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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #123 on: July 14, 2009, 05:59:06 PM »
Simon,

here are the Flora of China:
I copy you
A. beesianum
22. Allium beesianum W. W. Smith, Notes Roy. Bot. Gard. Edinburgh 8: 176. 1914.
À¶»¨¾Â lan hua jiu
Bulbs clustered, cylindric, 0.5–1 cm in diam.; tunic brown, fibrous, subreticulate at base, sometimes laciniate. Leaves linear, shorter than scape, 3–8 mm wide. Scape (20–)30–50 cm, terete, covered with leaf sheaths only at base. Spathe 1-valved, deciduous. Umbel hemispheric, laxly few flowered. Pedicels subequal, shorter than to equaling perianth, ebracteolate. Perianth blue; outer segments narrowly ovate-oblong, 11–14(–17) 3–5.5 mm, margin entire, apex obtuse; inner ones slightly longer
and narrower than outer. Filaments subequal, usually ca. 4/5 as long as perianth segments, connate at base and adnate to perianth segments for ca. 1 mm; outer ones subulate; inner ones broadened at base, sometimes 1-toothed on each side. Ovary obovoid-globose, with concave nectaries at base. Style 2–3 as long as ovary; stigma punctiform. Fl. and fr. Aug–Oct.
Slopes, meadows; 3000–4200 m. SW Sichuan (Yanbian Xian),
NW Yunnan (Heqing Xian, Lijiang Naxi Zu Zizhixian).

And Aliium cyathophorum var. farreri
15. Allium cyathophorum Bureau & Franchet, J. Bot. (Morot)
5: 154. 1891.
±-»¨¾Â bei hua jiu
Roots rather long, thick. Bulb solitary or clustered, cylindric; tunic grayish brown, fibrous, sometimes subreticulate. Leaves linear, usually shorter than scape, 2–5 mm wide, midvein distinct. Scape lateral, 13–15 cm, terete, usually 2-angled, covered with leaf sheaths only at base. Spathe 1(–3)-valved, persistent. Umbel hemispheric, laxly flowered. Pedicels 1–3 as long as perianth, ebracteolate. Perianth purple to dark purple; segments elliptic-oblong, 7–9 3–4 mm, apex retuse to obtuse or acuminate; inner ones slightly longer than outer. Filaments ca. 2/3 as long as perianth segments, connate into a tube for 2/3–3/4 their length; outer ones narrowly triangular; inner ones broadened at base, shoulder-shaped or triangular. Ovary ovoidglobose, tuberculate; ovules 2 per locule. Style shorter than ovary; stigma 3-cleft. Fl. and fr. Jun–Aug.
Slopes, meadows, rock crevices; 2700–4600 m. SE Gansu, S
Qinghai, W Sichuan, E Xizang, NW Yunnan.
1a. Perianth segments retuse to obtuse at apex; inner filaments shoulder-shaped at base ............................................... 15a. var. cyathophorum
1b. Perianth segments acuminate at apex;
inner filaments triangular at base .............. 15b. var. farreri
15a. Allium cyathophorum var. cyathophorum
±-»¨¾Â(Ô-±äÖÖ) bei hua jiu (yuan bian zhong)
Allium venustum C. H. Wright.
Perianth segments retuse to obtuse at apex. Inner filaments shoulder-shaped at base. 2n = 16*.
Slopes, meadows, rock crevices; 3000–4600 m. S Qinghai (Yushu
Xian), SW Sichuan, E Xizang, NW Yunnan.
15b. Allium cyathophorum var. farreri (Stearn) Stearn, Bot. Mag. 170: t. 252. 1955.
´¨¸Ê¾Â chuan gan jiu
Allium farreri Stearn, J. Bot. 64: 342. 1930.

I agree with Stephen this is not A. cyathophorum var. farreri you have.
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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #124 on: July 14, 2009, 07:11:56 PM »
Thanks! Obviously I meant 15cm, as even I am not that tall  ;)
This was the listing in the seed list:
16 Allium farreri                                  Alliaceae
    China: Maniganggo, Sechuan, 4100 m, fine scree or grass,
    dwarf chieve, 8-15 cm high, 0,5 mm wide lvs and stems, 2
    cm umbells of dark blue fls, 2007, D
I originally ordered it as I didn't think A.farreri was blue, so I was intrigued.
I'll have ago with the key though, in the clear light of a new day!
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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #125 on: July 14, 2009, 09:36:11 PM »
Allium commutatum  in flower
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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #126 on: July 14, 2009, 09:50:01 PM »
Allium sp.
I do not know this species, I have collected seeds in the region Puglia Italy
Padova N-E Italy climate zone 8

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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #127 on: July 14, 2009, 10:11:03 PM »
Allium commutatum  in flower

Nice one - a Halophytic Alliium! - unusual in its late flowering when it's leafless (like that other summer flowering Mediterranean bulbous plant I can't remember the name of at the moment) and its bulbs can disperse by floating off during winter storms - what's the chances of one floating onto my beach? (ref. http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/DrumstickAlliums )
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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #128 on: July 14, 2009, 10:21:37 PM »
Allium sp.
I do not know this species, I have collected seeds in the region Puglia Italy

No idea what this is, but it looks very similar to commutatum (a form of that species, perhaps).

A couple of Allium shots I took early April 2008 in your local wonderful Orto Botanico di Padova (the oldest university botanical garden in the world).  The first is (so the sign told me) Allium suworowii and the second a very much more common Allium (although I've struggled to grow it!)
 
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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #129 on: July 14, 2009, 10:39:07 PM »
Thanks  Stephen
task has some problem in order to cross the strait of Gibilterra ;D
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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #130 on: July 14, 2009, 11:00:11 PM »
Allium Meteoricum - 1-3 cm balls of pink flowers on 15 cm stems and is native to Turkey

A nice Allium that is not often seen and is usually expensive if available.
I find this very vigorous and it seeds around freely.

Eric
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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #131 on: July 15, 2009, 06:26:59 AM »
Eric,
What a choice onion - interesting color!

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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #132 on: July 15, 2009, 10:49:15 AM »
Gorgeous, unusual colour Eric - and a lovely clump of Allium Meteoricum - you can see why it was given that name  ;)
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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #133 on: July 15, 2009, 01:36:35 PM »
Some more alliums for totay
1.Allium jajlae
2.Allium greiery
3.Allium sikkimense
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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #134 on: July 16, 2009, 01:14:49 PM »
Here's a one-up for the poor maligned common chives (Allium schoenoprasum) and its numerous forms and subspecies, I offer this bunch of flowers (about 9 or 10 varieties) to all forumers who choose to holiday in the garden...
(they made an attractive decoration to the salad!)



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