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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #135 on: July 16, 2009, 02:41:32 PM »
Lovely bunch of chives, Stephen.
Can one of you onion experts ID the following?  It was grown from AGS seed sown January 2004, labelled Allium schoenoprasum 'Corsican White'.  It was flowering in late August last year.  It is a neat plant with flat leaves up to 15cm,  with a spiral twist on the longer leaves.  I did post it in the Identification thread last year but got no replies.
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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #136 on: July 16, 2009, 06:46:20 PM »
Here's a one-up for the poor maligned common chives (Allium schoenoprasum) and its numerous forms and subspecies, I offer this bunch of flowers (about 9 or 10 varieties) to all forumers who choose to holiday in the garden...
(they made an attractive decoration to the salad!

With a bunch of chives like that on offer as flowers or a salad you could bowl me over Stephen  :D
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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #137 on: July 16, 2009, 07:08:35 PM »
Roma,
here is a link for you :

http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Chives

I'm a bit confused, because I find two nursery lists, where this chive is described with white flowers. Hope Stephen knew more about this "cultivar".
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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #138 on: July 16, 2009, 07:31:43 PM »
Flowering now:
Allium farreri (?) from seed from Vojtech Holubec collected Sechuan, China 4100m.
Is this A.beesianum?
Okay, I have tentatively identified my Allium as A.sikkimense.
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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #139 on: July 16, 2009, 07:44:24 PM »
Simon,

then you have a very interesting form of A. sikkimense.
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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #140 on: July 16, 2009, 08:00:58 PM »
It just didn't seem to key out as any of the other choices- but it is a hard key to use. It did look like this pic of A.sikkimense they showed http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=87660&flora_id=800 except mine has darker blue stripes  ???
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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #141 on: July 16, 2009, 08:27:26 PM »
Lovely bunch of chives, Stephen.
Can one of you onion experts ID the following?  It was grown from AGS seed sown January 2004, labelled Allium schoenoprasum 'Corsican White'.  It was flowering in late August last year.  It is a neat plant with flat leaves up to 15cm,  with a spiral twist on the longer leaves.  I did post it in the Identification thread last year but got no replies.

I also received seed of Corsican White a few years ago and my result was much the same. I would guess what you have is a form of Allium senescens (again, Flora of China can help). In fact, seed exchange Alliums have so often turned in to Allium senescens look-alikes that I'm beginning to wonder....

I have three white forms, one dwarf, one slightly off-white (Wallington's White) and a white form of Allium schoenoprasum v. alpinum album. I've also seen white forms of the alvar chives, v. alvarense on Gotland in the Baltic. All 3 can be seen in my photo - I think you can see which is which.
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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #142 on: July 16, 2009, 08:37:37 PM »
It just didn't seem to key out as any of the other choices- but it is a hard key to use. It did look like this pic of A.sikkimense they showed http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=87660&flora_id=800 except mine has darker blue stripes  ???

My head still hurts from checking my Allium beesianum, A. sikkimense and A. cyaneum on Flora of China last year

This is the one I think I keyed out as sikkimense last year (received as beesianum).

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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #143 on: July 16, 2009, 09:04:59 PM »
Allium cernuum is also relatively common in gardens, but it's one of my favourites. Here are various forms from the garden today:

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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #144 on: July 16, 2009, 09:22:55 PM »
A few others:

1) Allium scorodoprasum jajlae
and then a couple of curiosities, both of which have formed bulbils in the inflorence:
2) Allium fistulosum(Welsh Onion) - haven't seen this before in this species although I've read that topset forming varieties do exist. I have many varieties of fistulosum and two have done this, both from the US - Stevenson's Multiplier and Franz Bunching (anyone else seen this?)
3) Allium senescens v. petraeum is also sprouting from the inflorescence with broad leaves...




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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #145 on: July 16, 2009, 09:59:25 PM »
My head still hurts from checking my Allium beesianum, A. sikkimense and A. cyaneum on Flora of China last year
This is the one I think I keyed out as sikkimense last year (received as beesianum).
It does look similar to yours, but with slightly more pointed petals and a looser umbel.
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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #146 on: July 24, 2009, 07:04:35 AM »
Flowering today:
Allium ovalifolium
Allium kermesianum (?)
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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #147 on: July 25, 2009, 01:54:48 PM »
Does anyone have any ideas what this Allium is? It is not one I have bought and Ihave not noticed it flowering until this year. So it is either native to my garden and has only just recovered enough to flower or it is a cuckoo from a seed exchange.
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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #148 on: July 29, 2009, 08:22:38 PM »
Simon can I suggest A. pallens,
It is native to Bulgaria and Greece too, it is closely related to A. paniculatum.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2009, 08:33:10 PM by Oron Peri »
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Re: Allium 2009
« Reply #149 on: July 30, 2009, 05:43:16 PM »
Many thanks, Oron.  :)
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