Galanthus woronowii variations

[mark smyth]

Oh no. Did you repot them or leave them in the pot they came in? Over here they come grown in peat or simply set in a pot and covered in moss

[Brian Ellis]

Commiserations Diane

[Diane Whitehead]

I potted the whole lot on into a larger pot, but I didn't separate
out the non-trym bulbs and they are big and sound, so it seems
it was just a problem with the special ones in the corner with
the blue ribbon around them.

The flowers produced no pollen and no seeds.  Obviously not
meant for this world.

I'll keep an eye on the pot to see if just maybe .....

[Martin Baxendale]

Diane, it's possible that the unusual flower shape wasn't a stable variation but actually a symptom of a couple of unhealthy bulbs struggling to produce properly-shaped flowers before eventually rotting. So you may not have actually lost anything very special - just bulbs that were producing deformed flowers due to bulb/root rot.

[mark smyth]

I'll be checking all garden centre snowdrops this year. It all reminds me when some stunners were found over here. I would have liked to have sent them away to experts but I was turned down. All were lost

[KentGardener]

That's a shame Diane - but at least we have the photographs to remember them by.   

[art600]

I'll be checking all garden centre snowdrops this year. It all reminds me when some stunners were found over here. I would have liked to have sent them away to experts but I was turned down. All were lost

Mark

When you say lost, what do you mean - they rotted in the purchaser's care?  They were bought by someone other than yourself?

If I see pots of snowdrops with unusual markings - I buy them and repot. 

[mark smyth]

Arthur these were found in a garden centre over here in 2006. Someone who works there say them in a delivery of elwesii. I wanted them to go away for twinscaling but the person who found them did it himself. All failed

[KentGardener]

I remember being quite taken by them when you first showed the Bushmills pictures Mark - such a shame that the garden centre finds always seem so feeble!   

All the nice ones I have found have either failed to appear the following year - or have given me one more flowering season to get me excited and then disappeared without a trace.  I had a beautiful fat green tipped Elwesii that I had high hopes for - but two years down the line 'there it was.... gone!' 

I am sure it won't stop me from buying more and trying again though.   

[art600]

Arthur these were found in a garden centre over here in 2006. Someone who works there say them in a delivery of elwesii. I wanted them to go away for twinscaling but the person who found them did it himself. All failed

Very sad to lose some excellent plants.  Having read John's note, and from personal experience, not sure I will be any more successful just keeping them alive let alone twinscaling them. 

Before you get too excited, my finds are nowhere near as good as the Bushmill finds - just interesting

[deee]

Out of interest can someone explain the differences between an G Woronowii Elizabeth Harrison thats not showing its full yellowness and a Woronowii Pale Form ? I have never seen either in the flesh and info on woronowii types seems hard to find.

In fact this thread is one of the only things that comes up in a google search on Woronowii Pale Form.

[Maggi Young]

I've never seen 'Elizabeth Harrison' looking other than beautifully yellow  and only  the photos of  a supposedly "pale" woronowii - but it seems to me that  the first is distinctly  yellow while the second is pale green.

[deee]

Thanks Maggie , i presume therefore that Elizabeth Harrison doesnt suffer as much from the potential lime/yellow issues of some of the other yellows ?  Theres seems to be quite a few of both EH and pale form on ebay at the moment and in some of the pictures they dont look that different at a glance --

[Maggi Young]

 It's always  yellow in my experience. I've had a look at the  various plants on ebay at the minute - I do see a difference between yellow and pale - and in ovary shape too - but there are so many variables that I cannot  make a judgement!

[deee]

Thanks again -- i think its also made harder by photo quality - colour wise theres a pale form listed thats clearly yelower than a listed EH -- and both from sound sellers , possibly a little colour adjustment in one and lack of in the other

There seems to be so much variation within the Woronowii group even though there dont (to an amateur) appear to be many 'named' varieties. And being a species group that you can purchase quite cheaply dormant, seems to have an elwesii comparison to finding something worthwhile within bulk purchase.