Narcissus March 2007

[Mark Griffiths]

I don't have a lot of luck with narcissus which is a great pity because I really do like them! This one is N.rupicola marvieri and is fairly new here. If I keep it going I will be very happy.

[David Nicholson]

I wonder if anyone could ID this Narcissus please, I like it and have lost the details I had of the variety. It is about ten inches high.

Note: found packet on 16/03/07... it's N. 'Jenny'

[annew]

It's very elegant.

[annew]

Here are some curious Narcissus jacetanus shown at Loughborough - we were amazed at the width of the frilly edge to the trumpet of some of the flowers.

[mark smyth]

looks like Trena.

[Rafa]

Hello friends,

Some wild pictures: Narcissus cantabricus, Narcissus confusus and Narcissus rupicola "The Suicide Narcissus"

[Mark Griffiths]

Many thanks for sharing. I know that's how many bulbs grow but I still haven't quite got my head around these cliff dwelling species! Does it usually grow in crevices or does it grow elswhere?

[Rafa]

Hello,

I have allways seen Narcissus rupicola in granite, but never in the ground. On the contrary, these Narcissus cantabricus is the only population that I have seen growing in limestone shelves, very rare.

Regards

[Maggi Young]

Extraordinary photos, Rafa, thank you.  These cantabricus are stunning, so white  and perfect.
When we see the beauty of these small N. confusus, we must ask why anyone ever thought that a huge hybrid was any improvement?
Your pictures of the crazy rupicolas are the best, that last one is just SO beautiful! Nature has so many ways to astonish us and I am grateful to you for showing us.

[Rafa]

Many thanks Maggi, I agree with you

Here Narcissus rupicola and Narcissus triandrus subsp. pallidulus growing together, but N. triandrus pallidulus usually grows in the ground, aswell.

These pictures are from a marvellous day in Ciudad Real, looking for Narcissus muñozii-garmendiae. Unfortunately deer, sheeps, wild boar, goats... ate the plants and I couldn't take pictures of this specie.

[Maggi Young]

Rafa, have you seen any signs that N. rupicola and triandrus have made hybrids?

[Maggi Young]

Also, Rafa, what is your opinion of the naming of Narcissus bulbocodium viriditubus ? Is this still a valid name or should it be called something else now?
I ask because this little hybrid, 'Twin Stars' raised from  seed MS204 in 2000 (in New Zealand )was registered as N. triandrus var triandrus crossed N.b. viriditubus.in 2003. 

[Rafa]

Yes it is Maggi, I have seen several hybrids between Narcissus triandrus subsp. pallidulus, Narcissus rupicola and Narcissus bulbocodium subsp. bulbocodium, unfortunately I have not pictures of that beacuse camera batery went flat 

I don't know wich species it could be Narcissus bulbocodium subsp. viriditubus.... there are so many changes in this genus... I will ask J. Fernández Casas to know his oppinion.

[Maggi Young]

unfortunately I have not pictures of that beacuse camera batery went flat

When will we have a camera that can be wound up to make battery power, like we have now wind-up radios and torches?    And how many hours would we need to stand and wind the handle to make a day's pictures?    It doesn't matter how many batteries you have, they will always run flat before you have finished your photos, it is a law of photography, I think!

I will ask J. Fernández Casas to know his oppinion.

Thank you, Rafa !

[annew]

Wonderful, wonderful pictures of wild things, especially N. rupicola which was the first daffodil we ever bought, and is a special favourite. Re Narcissus bulbocodium subsp. viriditubus, There is no mention of this subsp in the Internation Register's classification list, even as a name now superceded.
 One more thing, and I write with great trepidation, but you know the greengrocer's apostrophe (potato's, apple's etc)? Well I makes me squirm everytime I see bulbIcodium, instead of bulbOcodium. OK, now you can hate me forever!