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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #60 on: April 23, 2009, 08:46:46 PM »
Ok Hans, now I understand why you are a Gourmand. I also have the Paeony bug, but I am just beginning.  ;)
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #61 on: April 23, 2009, 08:59:58 PM »
Oh, Simon, Hans is no gourmand, he is a true gourmet! 8)  Trust me, I have the seedlings and the dried funghi to prove it!!  :)
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #62 on: April 23, 2009, 09:03:54 PM »
Maggi , ;)

thank you for clarification of my forum name ....( a gourmand is not so nice )

Simon :
I hope you have a big garden with a lot of room  ;)
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #63 on: April 23, 2009, 09:07:30 PM »
Hans, we have 4000 square metres.
Maggi, I am hoping my soon to be flowering Paeony seedlings are from Hans too- via AGS.
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #64 on: April 24, 2009, 10:03:12 AM »
Simon and Hans I fully understand that the singles are nice too but if You buy a double then You expect to get one.
Growing double from seeds must be a disappointment since they are often available in garden centers at a low cost.
If one likes species then one want to have singles offcourse.
If one wants big fat flowers than one go for doubles.
I do like that the single took heavy rain without hanging to much so they have their advantages.
I am just so surprised that it has happened twice that I got singles in stead of doubles. I do not think it has ever happend in Sweden so that is why I was thinking it might be cultivation. Nor did I expect to see singles in cultivation for commercial purposes.

I will see what the other one will look like next year and see if this one will stay the same. So something to look forward to.

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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #65 on: April 24, 2009, 10:20:02 AM »
Joakim ,

it is really a lot of wasting time if you grow peonies from seeds and than you realize it is a hybrid !

In your case : why do not order what you like from a good nursery ?
You can choice what you like : single , double,species,hybrids and more ....
p.e. there is a good nursery in Sweden -the owner is Hermann Krupke ( born german )
Guldmedsgarden
SE - 52495 LJUNG

If you buy peonies in a garden center so they are cheap ....but you will get nothing special ....if you go to a good peony nursery so you get wonderful plants -look p.e. for Hybrids from Saunders !
A good suggestion for peonies is the nursery from Riviere in France :
http://www.pivoinesriviere.com/
they have a fantastic sortiment !!!
Why not give a bit more money for such a ice plant ?
You can have it for a very long time .....thats only some minds of me !
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #66 on: April 24, 2009, 10:24:24 AM »
Today now P. corsica - as the name says the home of this plants is the island of Corsica
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #67 on: April 25, 2009, 07:35:30 PM »
Great colour on the P.corsica, Hans.
Flowering today, in between showers, Paeonia tenuifolia lithophila. Or at least that was its name when I bought it  ;)
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #68 on: April 25, 2009, 08:32:01 PM »
Paeonia emodi opened its first blossoms today.  I have two clones, one from England, which I believe is the Highdown clone and one from China.  Both have beautiful, but different foliage.  I have a seedling coming from a cross between the two.
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #69 on: April 25, 2009, 09:41:28 PM »
Simon :

I grow both P.tenuifolia and P.lithophila -they are a bit different for me :
P. tenuifolia is a really low plant ,P. lithophila is higher and flowers 2 weeks later

Jamie :
I suppose your 'Highdown clone' is a hybrid ( maybe 'Windflower' early or late )
P. emodi comes not from China - the name comes from the Emodi Mts.  -thats the latin name for Himalaya - this plants grows in Kashmir - N.Pakistan - Afganistan .
I grow it too - my plants comes one from W.MyLewin and a other is grown from w.c. seeds from Afganistan.
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #70 on: April 25, 2009, 09:51:27 PM »
Hans,

I did know it doesn't come from China, but that was the source of the importation at the time, therefore the epiphet.  I had thought of 'Wind Flower', but the fotos I've seen of the hybrid don't match my plant well, also, I had read that both 'Wind Flower' clones bloom later than the species.  Attached are shots of the leaves of both plants.  What do you think?
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #71 on: April 25, 2009, 09:57:32 PM »
Thanks Hans. It was bought as a seedling from Paul Christian about 10 years ago a P.tenuifolia lithophila. Unfortunately at the time I had to grow it in a pot (which it hated) and it has been moved from the open garden twice. It has just settled back into flowering, but is only ever about 30cm tall. Which species would that make it?
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #72 on: April 25, 2009, 10:03:36 PM »
Jamie ,

it is clear to see on your 'Highdown ' plant that it is a hybrid - look for the leaves !!!
Saunders has used for  'Early Windflower' : P. emodi X P. veitschii
                           for  'Late Windflower'  : P.emodi X P.veitschii v. beresowskii

here is a pic of my P. emodi from last year :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1690.msg45295#msg45295
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #73 on: April 25, 2009, 10:06:05 PM »
Simon :

I will look tomorrow with a scale on my plants of P. tenuifloia and P. lithophila ....
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #74 on: April 26, 2009, 08:29:10 AM »
Simon :

I have just looked :

P. tenuifolia 40 cm
P. tenuifolia f. rosea 40 cm
P. lithophla 60 cm
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