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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #75 on: April 26, 2009, 08:40:05 AM »
Thanks Hans- I guess it is P.tenuifolia then  :)
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #76 on: April 26, 2009, 09:28:47 AM »
No problem Simon  :D

Here some new pics :

P. 'Roselette'
a triple hybrid from Saunders ( P. lactiflora x ( P.officinalis X P.macrophylaa))
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #77 on: April 26, 2009, 09:41:27 AM »
here some more :

P. 'La Messagere' ( a old hybrid )
P. banatica
P. spec. aff. mascula
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #78 on: April 26, 2009, 09:46:31 AM »
here is a strange plant - grown from seeds ex Archibalds :

I have the seeds received as P. mascula ex Montenegro ......but it is never a P. mascula !
....I hate such things ....a plant without a good location is not a good plant  :-\

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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #79 on: April 26, 2009, 09:48:56 AM »
Hans,

a question concerning P. banatica.  I have a plant from Hungary, looks to be in the officinalis group.  The last leaf is always divided in two leaflets, the leaves are very bluish and the flower resembles your plant.  It is in bud and should open in the next days.  It is slightly rhizomatous, as well.  Does this 'sound' like banatica?  Or are there other forms with this leaf characteristic?
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #80 on: April 26, 2009, 10:08:01 AM »
Jamie ,

my plant comes orginaly from Hungary too ...
But I have seen this plants also self in the wild ( Italy / Slowenia )
It is a ssp. to P. officinalis - no problem why your plant should be not a P.banatica -but please post a pic .
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #81 on: April 26, 2009, 11:13:05 AM »
Here are three clones I received from the Baltic states (Lithuania?) of P. rockii.  Whether they represent hybrids or selection of the species, I have no idea.  The purple one has wonderfully bright lime green foliage and is incredibly robust.  Already 3 times the size of the other two.  It has the best plant habit as well, which speaks for a hybrid.

The last shot is Renkaku.
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #82 on: April 26, 2009, 02:34:51 PM »
Gentlemen.... I am in heaven with your photos..... thank you!
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #83 on: April 26, 2009, 02:48:37 PM »
Hans,

here is a shot of the current years foliage and last years flower.  Hope this helps.

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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #84 on: April 26, 2009, 04:08:21 PM »
Jamie ,

yes -it is a typical P. officinalis  ;)
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #85 on: April 26, 2009, 05:00:54 PM »
Hans,

what's your favourite reference for Paeonia?  I have Page, Halda-Waddick, but still am unsure how to key-out species.  Just what does seperate offcinalis from banatica?  Anomola from veitchii, etc?
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #86 on: April 26, 2009, 05:27:25 PM »
Jamie ,

I have the most of the peony literature ....
To the book of Waddick/ Halda ....there are excellent drawnings ....but I prefer more pics from habitat  ;)
I do know the book from Martin Page - very good .
To P.banatica : I think the main reason for this separating is the distribution ....in my eyes is not so much difference to other forms of P.officinalis ( I know it from Italy,Swiss,Croatia,France)
In earlier times was always a big confusion with plants which named as P.arietina ....but this plants grows ( so far i know ) only in Turkey
P.anomala + P.veitschii ....but are similar and shure relatet - but they grow in different areas.
The nomenclature of Paeonia is a minefield ....and many wrong named plants and hybrids makes this situation not easier ...
It is always the same : there are splitters and lumpers ....
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #87 on: April 26, 2009, 06:59:23 PM »
A few more paeonies.  As many plants are from commercial production, I am never sure if the names are correct, but they are always beautiful.
Paeonia_ShiChoju_
 Paeonia_Athena_
 P. HANA DAI JIN day 1
 Kamada-Nishiki
« Last Edit: April 26, 2009, 09:22:01 PM by Maggi Young »
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #88 on: April 27, 2009, 08:39:19 PM »
Today we went for a walk in a local wood, where last autumn we found 1 paeony in seed. Today we returned hoping to see some in flower, but we were maybe a week too early. The area we visited had hundreds of paeonies, most had buds about to break and we hope to return soon to see them in flower. In the meantime here are pics of the 2 leaf forms we saw. As a paeony novice I am not quite sure which they are- the choices are P.mascula or P.peregrina.
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Re: Paeonia 2009
« Reply #89 on: April 28, 2009, 04:46:41 PM »
Probably my absolute favourite herbacious Paeonia, 'Claire de Lune'.  Simply beautiful.
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