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Lovely narcissus Tony,slow is the word.My N moschatus from Mike salmon had only made two off sets in over 10years.The erythronium is a wonderful plant.I remember getting to the ski resort above Benasque and the turf was full of them in flower just as the snow had melted.My pictures are not as organised as my plants but I have a couple showing them in the wild in flower.No seed for me.