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Re: Puzzles
« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2009, 01:36:48 PM »
Here's a little puzzle for you if its still rainy.
I entered this pic in a competition.  First I had to find a name for the butterfly.  It could be one you have seen locally.  Do its wings reflect the sky?

Did you win first prize Tony?  You should have , it's a beautiful shot (I think I have a photo of it from Italy but the only blue butterfly I have caught here is the Adonis Blue (?) in my patch of meadow grasses - it was so enjoying fast food it was almost impossible to get near it!
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Re: Puzzles
« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2009, 01:51:59 PM »
Mirror blue ... or in the case of Lancashire ... mirror murky grey?   ;D

Greyer and greyer, Cliff, Lancashire can't possibly be as grey as this?  Now you see why I started Puzzles! Please send some colour to me!


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Re: Puzzles
« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2009, 02:09:53 PM »
Butterbur is very common round here where it grows under trees alongside rivers. It is one of the first wild flowers to come out. I don't know how it got its name but that also applies to many common plant names.
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Re: Puzzles
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2009, 02:16:43 PM »
Ah but I've got an answer for you...

The name Butterbur is supposed to have been given it because formerly these large leaves were used to wrap butter in during hot weather.  ;D ;D
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Re: Puzzles
« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2009, 02:20:34 PM »
Burrrrr
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Re: Puzzles
« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2009, 02:29:46 PM »
Butterbur is very common round here where it grows under trees alongside rivers. It is one of the first wild flowers to come out. I don't know how it got its name but that also applies to many common plant names.

Strange they like two such different environments, David, what trees are along the river where you are?  The Butterbur I photographed was in the leaf litter from forest pines, birches, beech...no water except underground melt water?
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Re: Puzzles
« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2009, 02:33:06 PM »
Ah but I've got an answer for you...

The name Butterbur is supposed to have been given it because formerly these large leaves were used to wrap butter in during hot weather.  ;D ;D


Anne, it's wonderful to have that connection with how plants were named - was tickled pink you knew it!  Now roll on the hot weather so I can try wrapping my Swiss butter in the leaves - but not sure when the real leaves appear? ::)
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Re: Puzzles
« Reply #37 on: March 29, 2009, 02:50:50 PM »
Anne, it's wonderful to have that connection with how plants were named - was tickled pink you knew it!  Now roll on the hot weather so I can try wrapping my Swiss butter in the leaves - but not sure when the real leaves appear? ::)

Anne possibly did know the answer as well :) Leaves appear after the plant has flowered.
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Re: Puzzles
« Reply #38 on: March 29, 2009, 03:01:09 PM »
Anne, it's wonderful to have that connection with how plants were named - was tickled pink you knew it!  Now roll on the hot weather so I can try wrapping my Swiss butter in the leaves - but not sure when the real leaves appear? ::)

Anne possibly did know the answer as well :) Leaves appear after the plant has flowered.

Sorry Carol!....I was so impressed I got my mames mumbled up! I will look out for the Utterly butterly leaves
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Re: Puzzles
« Reply #39 on: March 29, 2009, 03:04:06 PM »
The ground is generally moist and humus rich but with deciduous trees like alder, willow and birch.
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« Reply #40 on: March 29, 2009, 03:09:35 PM »
The ground is generally moist and humus rich but with deciduous trees like alder, willow and birch.

Maybe birch is the common link, David - humus rich as well?...  talking of which what is best to add to an raised alpine bulb bed which is sinking in the snow melt? 
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Re: Puzzles
« Reply #41 on: March 29, 2009, 05:08:01 PM »
Here's a little puzzle for you if its still rainy.
I entered this pic in a competition.  First I had to find a name for the butterfly.  It could be one you have seen locally.  Do its wings reflect the sky?
I would say common blue (Polyommatus icarus)? Too much blue near the body for the adonis blue. I would be extremely surprised to see apollos much before June anywhere in the Alps. I saw them in July in the Italian Alps in 1988. I have bred them in the greenhouse on Sedum album. The larvae over-winter fully formed but still inside the egg.

Here's some pics of Parnassius apollo in the greenhouse in 2003 and the small apollo (P. phoebus) in 2004. The female apollo has much more translucent wings.
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Re: Puzzles
« Reply #42 on: March 29, 2009, 05:22:16 PM »
Beautiful.
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Re: Puzzles
« Reply #43 on: March 29, 2009, 05:25:32 PM »
'talking of which what is best to add to an raised alpine bulb bed which is sinking in the snow melt? '

A mixture of humus and grit with added bonemeal.
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Re: Puzzles
« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2009, 05:45:12 PM »
Here's a little puzzle for you if its still rainy.
I entered this pic in a competition.  First I had to find a name for the butterfly.  It could be one you have seen locally.  Do its wings reflect the sky?
I would say common blue (Polyommatus icarus)? Too much blue near the body for the adonis blue. I would be extremely surprised to see apollos much before June anywhere in the Alps. I saw them in July in the Italian Alps in 1988. I have bred them in the greenhouse on Sedum album. The larvae over-winter fully formed but still inside the egg.

Here's some pics of Parnassius apollo in the greenhouse in 2003 and the small apollo (P. phoebus) in 2004. The female apollo has much more translucent wings.

Anthony, how amazing to see such beautiful photos from your greenhouse of the Apollo butterfly.  I took my photo of the two entwined on July 18th and had never seen such an amazing display of translucent wings close up.  What other butterflies do you breed in Dunblane?


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