We hope you have enjoyed the SRGC Forum. You can make a Paypal donation to the SRGC by clicking the above button

Author Topic: Lily Beetle  (Read 10499 times)

Peter Maguire

  • Camera-toting Gadabout - and new Grandad!
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1043
  • Country: gb
Re: Lily Beetle
« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2010, 07:15:33 PM »
I've just come across this thread, and thought Lesley ought to see the adults in full, glorious colour. We've had them here in Newcastle for 2-3 years (climate change?  >:( ), and I saw them in the 'wild' last year on Lilium bulbiferum in Switzerland. I wonder what their predators are there....
Peter Maguire
Newcastle upon Tyne, U.K.

"I've killed so many plants. I walked into a nursery once and my face was on a wanted poster." - Rita Rudner

http://www.pmfoto.co.uk/

Lesley Cox

  • way down south !
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16348
  • Country: nz
  • Gardening forever, house work.....whenever!
Re: Lily Beetle
« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2010, 09:58:46 PM »
Thank you Peter. I won't say you've made my day though. I'm assured I'm lucky we don't have this in New Zealand (yet) and hopefully for once, MAF will be effective in keeping it out. But you have to admit it's a very handsome creature. 8)
Lesley Cox - near Dunedin, lower east coast, South Island of New Zealand - Zone 9

gote

  • still going down the garden path...
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1594
  • A fact is a fact - even if it is an unusual fact
Re: Lily Beetle
« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2010, 11:23:38 AM »
I've just come across this thread, and thought Lesley ought to see the adults in full, glorious colour. We've had them here in Newcastle for 2-3 years (climate change?  >:( ), and I saw them in the 'wild' last year on Lilium bulbiferum in Switzerland. I wonder what their predators are there....
We have had them in Mid-Sweden for at least ten years so I doubt that it is the climate - at least in your place.
It seems that the do not like all lilies equally well. Hansonii is a favourite. Maybe it is because they overwinter in the topsoil and Hansonii is the first one up, martagon closely following. Superbum is another favourite and can become eaten to the stalk.
I do not know anything about predators but it seems that my martagons - including escapees on which I never kill any beetles are not so severely affected as superbum are.
I have never seen them on the small Chinese - nor on Fritillaria meleagris and other narrow leaf ones - Fritillaria camtchatkensis will be eaten however.
Good hunting!
Göte
Göte Svanholm
Mid-Sweden

Tony Willis

  • Wandering Star
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3205
  • Country: england
Re: Lily Beetle
« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2010, 11:43:43 AM »
When I first discovered lily beetle in the garden three years ago it was on an auratum but then I found it had completely decimated the frit meleagris and has been on them the last two years.
Chorley, Lancashire zone 8b

Luc Gilgemyn

  • VRV President & Channel Hopper
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5528
  • Country: be
Re: Lily Beetle
« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2010, 12:49:32 PM »
They absolutely looooove Frit. imperialis ...  >:( >:(
Luc Gilgemyn
Harelbeke - Belgium

johnw

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6696
  • Country: 00
  • rhodo-galantho-etc-phile
Re: Lily Beetle
« Reply #35 on: March 08, 2010, 03:27:33 PM »
When I first discovered lily beetle in the garden three years ago it was on an auratum but then I found it had completely decimated the frit meleagris and has been on them the last two years.

Tony - Here they eat about 50% of the leaves of the Fritillaria meleagris.  Their absolute favourite is the white Lilium martagon which they decimate and then move on to the regular martagon. Wretched things they are and an hour can fly by squishing them.

johnw
John in coastal Nova Scotia

gote

  • still going down the garden path...
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1594
  • A fact is a fact - even if it is an unusual fact
Re: Lily Beetle
« Reply #36 on: March 08, 2010, 03:57:10 PM »
Have we got different clones of beetles???
Göte
Göte Svanholm
Mid-Sweden

Luc Gilgemyn

  • VRV President & Channel Hopper
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5528
  • Country: be
Re: Lily Beetle
« Reply #37 on: March 08, 2010, 04:02:42 PM »
I've only seen the orange one as pictured Göte !
Luc Gilgemyn
Harelbeke - Belgium

johnw

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6696
  • Country: 00
  • rhodo-galantho-etc-phile
Re: Lily Beetle
« Reply #38 on: March 08, 2010, 05:52:32 PM »
I've only seen the orange one as pictured Göte !

Here they are a no aspologies red, no orange.

johnw
John in coastal Nova Scotia

gote

  • still going down the garden path...
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1594
  • A fact is a fact - even if it is an unusual fact
Re: Lily Beetle
« Reply #39 on: March 09, 2010, 08:12:51 AM »
I've only seen the orange one as pictured Göte !
I mean with different culinary preferences. ;D
Göte
Göte Svanholm
Mid-Sweden

Giles

  • Prince of Primula
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1833
  • Country: gb
Re: Lily Beetle
« Reply #40 on: March 09, 2010, 09:22:02 PM »
There's a nice article on lily beetles (and their predators) which you can download as a pdf on the North American Lily Society website.
(under publications > sample articles).

fredg

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1232
  • Country: gb
    • Carnivorous Plants & Friends
Re: Lily Beetle
« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2010, 07:06:17 PM »
I find that Heliamphora is a perfect natural predator.
If I squeeze the beetles with my tweezers the Heliamphora accept them gratefully ;D.
A couple of dinners are shown before preparation.

« Last Edit: March 11, 2010, 07:38:27 PM by fredg »
Fred
Quot Homines Tot Sententiae
Mansfield Notts. UK Zone 8b

http://fredg.boards.net/

Eric Locke

  • Guest
Re: Lily Beetle
« Reply #42 on: March 16, 2010, 08:17:28 PM »

Nice Photos Fred. ;)

Eric

mark smyth

  • Hopeless Galanthophile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15254
  • Country: gb
Re: Lily Beetle
« Reply #43 on: March 16, 2010, 09:04:38 PM »
They are in N Ireland also but as far as I know in County Down only.

What is the life cycle and what do they do during the winter?
Antrim, Northern Ireland Z8
www.snowdropinfo.com / www.marksgardenplants.com / www.saveourswifts.co.uk

When the swifts arrive empty the green house

All photos taken with a Canon 900T and 230

Maggi Young

  • Forum Dogsbody
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 44766
  • Country: scotland
  • "There's often a clue"
    • International Rock Gardener e-magazine
Re: Lily Beetle
« Reply #44 on: March 16, 2010, 09:47:53 PM »
They are in N Ireland also but as far as I know in County Down only.

What is the life cycle and what do they do during the winter?

 See this article, mentioned by Giles, from the North American Lily Society:
http://www.lilies.org/index.html ...... from their sample articles....

http://www.lilies.org/lilybeetle.pdf   by Crystal Ernst, B.Sc., M.Sc.

 
Margaret Young in Aberdeen, North East Scotland Zone 7 -ish!

Editor: International Rock Gardener e-magazine

 


Scottish Rock Garden Club is a Charity registered with Scottish Charity Regulator (OSCR): SC000942
SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal