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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #585 on: December 04, 2010, 04:32:24 PM »
Try again ,hopely with picture
« Last Edit: December 04, 2010, 05:14:17 PM by Maggi Young »
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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #586 on: December 04, 2010, 05:27:46 PM »
Hallo Mark,
This is a part from my garden with a peatwall. With E.gr."Yellow Queen", Corydalis kashmiriana and candelabra primulas.

Hi Gerrit, well that's a lovely spring scene with some choice plants!  I have E. grandiflorum 'Yellow Princess' but don't know of a 'Yellow Queen', did you mean 'Yellow Princess', or is there a 'Yellow Queen' variety available over there? 

In your plant, the flowers look rich bright yellow, in 'Yellow Princess' they are a very pale yellow, somewhat like forms of E. grandiflorum f. flavescens.  My 'Yellow Princess' was in a spot that becomes very dry from the roots of nearby Arborvitae (Thuya), so I finally moved it to a new location this fall.  E. gr. 'Yellow Princess' is a selection from high mountain areas in Japan, thus one of the very last Epimediums to leaf out and flower in spring, along the same lines as E. grandiflorum 'Cranberry Sparkle', another recent (2002) introduction of a high elevation selection with red flowers, also rather late to emerge in spring. 

I also know of the popular 'Amber Queen' that is orangish-yellow, but that is not a grandiflorum.

I envy your being able to grow Corydalis cashmeriana, I've never been able to grow it, but can grow some of the other Chinese blue ones.  They mix nicely with Epimedium, don't they?
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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #587 on: December 04, 2010, 07:53:45 PM »
Yes Mark.

You are defenitely right, I made a mistake, I was so busy to post a photo, that I forgot to think.
This is E.grandiflorum " Yellow Princess". The warm yellow color is somewhat paler in reality indeed.

This Corydalis should be difficult, but it grows for several years on that spot in an mixture of clay, peat and compost. Morningsun.
A nice second bloom in summer. A good spreader as well.
Good to hear she is from a high moutain area. I understand her late flowering now.

I know you do not grow only E. in your garden. You must have a great allium-collection and now you tell me about corydalis.But it must be fantastic to have in you woodlandgarden arisaema, trillium, sanguinaria, anemone, pulmonaria, bulbs,etc. On your pictures I see mostly only E.
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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #588 on: December 06, 2010, 12:41:21 AM »
Well, i'm very impressed by this thread, specifically, as Gerrit, for your photos and your knowledge Mark. That's very usefull for me.

It's not so easy, here, in France, to find many cultivars of Epimedium grandiflorum. It seems that Darrell Probst sells and hybridizes much of them.

Since few years, the genus of Epimedium is one of my favorite with the Podophyllum, Trillium, Paris & Co and i can't help but collect them.
I'm assisted in this effort by my friend, the french plant breeder, Thierry Delabroye, and others plantsmen such as, as mentioned by Wim and Gerrit, Koen Van Poucke, Daniele Monbaliu from the nursery Epimedium, Marion Basset (who imports some japanese's selections of Epimedium grandiflorum like 'Fukujuji', 'Benikujaku', 'Tokiwa Gozen' etc.)

So I'm really pleased to discover yours, particularly those with outstanding foliage.

Here, I grow about a fifty species and cultivars, most Chinese and some Japanese (and I would like to try them seriously), and many hybrids of mine (wich have been naturally hybridized, I simply harvested the seeds), Thierry Delabroye and Daniele Monbaliu.

I live near Thierry's nursery and I go there regularly in spring. He is particularly interested in foliage, form, color and of course the flowers and got really interesting results, some of its hybrids will be available soon and I’d be happy to present them to you next year if you wish.

And for your viewing pleasure, here's a Japanese blog with some interesting photos of epimediums : http://iroha.s7.xrea.com/ep/

Meanwhile, I put some pictures of epimediums of the garden, and some Thierry's hybrids.

(Sorry for my English, I'm not good at languages! And also sorry for the pictures, some are really bad)

1 - Epimedium acuminatum L575

2 - Epimedium acuminatum yellow form (not sure...)

3 - Epimedium grandiflorum 'Akebono'

4,5,6 - Epimedium 'Amber Queen', from Robin White, hybrid between E.wushanense and E.wushanense 'Caramel'.

7 - Epimedium 'Artic Wings', an hybrid of E.latisepalum

8 - Epimedium grandiflorum 'Benishidori'

9,10,11 - Epimedium 'Buckland Spider', hybrid between E.grandiflorum and E.koreanum, slow but very vigourous.
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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #589 on: December 06, 2010, 12:50:41 AM »
12,13,14,15 - Epimedium 'Domino', one my favourites

16,17 - Epimedium grandiflorum 'Red Beauty'

18 - Epimedium grandiflorum v.violaceum

19 - Epimedium latisepalum (flowers), floriferous, vigourous, one of my favourites.
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« Reply #590 on: December 06, 2010, 12:54:41 AM »
20,21,22 - Epimedium lishichenii (flowers)

23 - Epimedium 'Pink Champagne'

24 - Epimedium stellulatum 'Wuddang Star'

25,26 - Epimedium 'Tojen', a japanese hybrid, very small but big flowers.

27 - Epimedium wushanense sp. nova

29 - Epimedium x omeiense 'Stormcloud', very bad pictures, he's so beautiful and very floriferous
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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #591 on: December 06, 2010, 12:58:04 AM »
30,31,32 - An hybrid of Epimedium davidii I guess

33,34,35,36,37,38 - Seedling, I guess it's an hybrid of Epimedium acuminatum and dolichostemon, any idea?

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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #592 on: December 06, 2010, 01:01:34 AM »
39,40,41 - Hybrid of davidii? The flowers are bigger, I don't know...

42 - Hybrid

43 - Hybrid of davidii?

44,45,46,47 - Hybrids
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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #593 on: December 06, 2010, 01:04:13 AM »
48,49,50,51 - A very beautiful hybrid unnamed.

52,53,54,55 - Hybrids

56 - Hybrid, fargesi x acuminatum ?
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« Reply #594 on: December 06, 2010, 01:06:35 AM »
57 up to 66 - Hybrids
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« Reply #595 on: December 06, 2010, 01:08:46 AM »
67 up to 72 - Hybrids

73,74 - Hybrid with pale flowers and anormal foliage
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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #596 on: December 06, 2010, 01:10:12 AM »
75 - Hybrid

76 - Hybrid, I call it 'Bonbon rose' or 'Pink Candy'

77,78,79 - Hybrids


I hope that's not too much photos in one time... :-\

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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #597 on: December 06, 2010, 04:09:45 AM »
Hello Geoffrey, welcome to the SRGC Forum, and thank you for selecting the Epimedium 2010 topic to start with and deliver such a feast for our eyes with photos of so many gorgeous epimediums.  I am highly impressed with your hybrids and your extensive post.  And don't worry about your English, it is fine.

There is much to respond to, please forgive me if I miss something that is important to you that you'd like to see a response to, but with 79 photos, there is a lot that I'd like to say.

Photos 33-38, of likely E. acuminatum x dolichostemon, I would agree with that suggestion. Very nice.

Some of your hybrids have flared outer sepals, like the upper bracts on a pineapple, most distinctive.  In particular, I see these erect or flared outer sepals on #41 (davidii hybrid), #48-51 (beautiful yellow and pink hybrid), #55 (one that looks like 'Amber Queen' with orange-yellow sepals/spurs and erect pinkish white outer sepals), and #58 (similar but slightly darker than #55).  Do you know what parent is responsible for the erect white-pinkish outer sepals?  E. dolichostemon most likely, or even fargesii?

Stunning hybrids - many that you show are quite attractive, the pink and yellow #48-51, #64-65 with beautiful slender red and yellow "spiders", #69-72 - perhaps my favorite in salmon orange (outstanding!), #76 - your "Bonbon" or "Pink Candy" with chunky cups of orange-red, such a bright and distinctive flower shape.

The one that gets most of my attention, is #73-74, with the unusual 3-lobed foliage on some leaves.  How many leaves on the plant make that shape, it seems like some leaves are normal.  I have seen seedlings of E. sempervirens make funny lobed leaves, and there is one form of E. grandiflorum f. flavescens that Darrell Probst offers that has three-lobed tips to the leaves... not on all leaves, but the largest most mature leaves show that characteristic. I have also noticed in E. franchetii 'Brimstone Butterfly' that the ends of some leaves show enlarged dentations that could almost be called "lobes". I'm interested in selecting Epimedium hybrids, not only for flowers, but for their foliage characteristics, after all, we see them in the garden for most of the year in leaves only.

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#2 - E. acuminatum yellow - not sure what to think; I have seen photos of a few so-called yellow forms and they are cream or very pale yellow, and many labeled as this have been misnomers.

#3 - 'Akebono' is listed by Darrell Probst as a youngianum, although I have seen it listed elsewhere as a grandiflorum.  To me, it seems more like a youngianum cultivar.

#7 - 'Arctic Wings' - very pretty, I like the clean white flowers and new red foliage.

#9-11 - Epimedium 'Buckland Spider', hybrid between E.grandiflorum and E. koreanum. Looks floriferous.  I have many hybrid seedlings that look similar, crosses between E. grandiflorum 'Larchmont' and E. grandiflorum f. flavescens 'La Rocaille'.

#25-26 - E. 'Tojen', I could not find anything on that name, but possibly it is actually the same as E. leptorrhizum 'Togen', listed simply as E. 'Togen' on the Koen Van Poucke web site.

Thanks again for posting so many wonderful Epimedium photos, your examples of Epimedium hybrids are inspirational and fire the imagination.
Mark McDonough
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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #598 on: December 06, 2010, 07:52:22 AM »
Hi Geoffrey,

a warm welcome to this forum from me too.
You know Daniëlle Monbaliu? She's a good friend of mine, actually for the moment she's taking care of some Epimediums (amongst which E. grfl 'Dark Beauty') for me, which I ordered from D. Probst this year.

Like Mark said, there's so much to respond to...it's overwhelming...you have some stunning hybrids there....I'll have a closer look later...to be continued  ;)
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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #599 on: December 06, 2010, 08:23:00 AM »
Wow, Geoffrey,  wonderful fotos!  Thanks for sharing these.  I'll wait for Mark and Wim to pick your brain, as they really have some great collections going.  I've just started collecting Epimedium and seeing all your hybrids has set my heart beating quite a bit faster.

Ciao für now,

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