Tree Peonies 2009

[Paddy Tobin]

Andre,

A wonderful selection, beautiful blooms. I am especially taken with Romangold and Zephyrus.

Paddy

[Guff]

The last one(seedling of mine)isn't a true tree peony, but I believe it's a cross of one. It dies back to the ground each year.

[Paul T]

Beautiful, Guff.

[Ragged Robin]

They really know how to show off their ruffles    A sumptuous collection Guff, thanks...

[Guff]

Paul, Robin, thanks.

Both pictures are of the same flower, couldn't decide which was better. This tree peony has flowers that hang down.

[Paul T]

Guff,

Looks to me like Kinshe, or Souvenir de Maxim Cornu (my understanding is that they're very similar, but I don't know the exact differences).  Yours is exactly like one that I have, which I bought as Kinshe, but was told is actually Souvenir de Maxim Cornu.  I think I have the spellings right, but am quite happy to be corrected, both on spelling and on names.

A couple of yours previous ones I recognise as well, but would have to do looking for names.  Hopefully Hans or someone else can provide you with some names if you are wanting them.  I particularly like that lovely strong pink in the first couple of pics you posted above.

[arisaema]

Ypu're right Paul, looks exactly like 'Souvenir de Maxime Cornu'. 'Kinshi' is more yellow, but if you were thinking of 'Kinkaku' then that's just a synonym for 'Maxime'.

[Regelian]

Paul, Guff, et al,

Chromatella (Kinshi) and Souvenir de Maxime Cornu (Kinkaku) are similar plants, as Chromatella is a sport of Souv. de Maxime Cornu.  The japanese names were added for marketing purposes, as these are European cultivars.  I have wondered if the sport actually occured outside of Europe, but have yet to find a reference.

The main difference is that Chromatella does not have the strong golden-orange edging on the tepals and is simply a lemony yellow.  Both have hanging blossoms with a strangely exotic scent, which you either appreciate...or not.  I find it a fascinating combination of notes.

[arisaema]

Could TreePeony4.jpg be 'Kamatanishiki'?

[Paul T]

Arisaema and Jamie,

Thanks for the clarification.  I thought that Kinshi also had red edging..... otherwise why do they seem to be mixed up so much?

[Regelian]

Paul,

I've wondered this myself, as the plant of Kinshi I know is quite clearly yellow, with a faint touch of an edge, while Kinkaku has a strong golden tone with reddish edge.  It may be that Kinshi tends to revert back or partially and many of the plants now being used for propogation are no longer true to type.  I really don't know.

[Hans J]

Hi ,

after my books is :
 
Alice Harding = Kinkou
Cromatella = Kinshi
La Loirraine = Kinyou
L'Esperance = Kintei
'SOuvenir de Prof. Maxime Cornu = Kinkaku

The japan nurseries have not breed self any yellow treepeonies ....but they gave this breedings from other countries japanese names ....

[Guff]

Thanks everyone for the id's. The flowers on this tree peony also hang down, it's a smaller sized flower then the above one.

[Regelian]

Guff,

that looks like Chromatella/Kinshi.  Did it come with a name?

[Paul T]

Guff,

My the above descriptions that would definitely be the Kinshi/Chromatella.  You can see the resemblance, but I still wouldn't be confusing them myself if I saw either of them in those colours.  I guess it is just slackness on the part of nurserymen somewhere that started the mess up, then have perpetuated it.  Fascinating to see them "together" like this, so that we can really see the difference.