Podophyllum

[johnw]

Congratulations on the seedpods coming to fruition!!    Good luck with your hybrids.  I hope you're successful in producing some wonders.  How many seeds did you end up with from those 3 fruit in #97?

Paul - delavayi#1 x delavayi #2 produced uniformly large seed. The crosses delavayi (best)   x   versipelle Helleiners and an op pod which was dabbed with pleianthum, versipelle and delavayi produced 1/3 large seed and 2/3 small seed.  A few of the small seeds shattered when de-sliming.  

I should sow the smaller and larger ones separately to see if there is a difference in the outcomes.

johnw

[Paul T]

It will be interesting to hear (and see) the outcome.  Thanks John.

[mickeymuc]

This year my P. "spotty dotty" produced some beautiful fruit - I'm very curious to see what will come out - I tried pollination with delavayi, hexandrum and versipelle (?)....but of course I didn't mark which was which. However, I'm sure the offspring will be beautiful :-)

Michael

[Paul T]

Congratulations, Michael.  An achievement to get the seeds, and good luck with some interesting progeny.  I'd be doing the same thing I must admit if I had different Podophyllums.... the possibilities seem endless!!

[Tony Willis]

Thats good Michael I am sure the offspring will be interesting.

Here are the last two fruits on one of my delavayi which does not have well marked leaves. They are the largest yet and resemble in colour and size those on P hexandrum each being 8cms long. When it flowered it was  normal delavayi.
My other plants produced more purple/red fruits.

Across the range of fruits I have collected this year the number of seeds has ranged from 4 to over 80 in a single one. Previous experience shows they germinate well  the spring following sowing. I keep my seed pots just frost free over the winter even though the plants have proved to be hardy in the garden.

As John says cleaning them is not the easiest way to spend an afternoon.

[johnw]

A mass wave of Podophyllum seeds are sprouting in the cold room.  Seems a tad early but as some of the seeds seemed awfully rubbery on harvesting it's quite promising.

I suppose it will soon be time to confirm the species and hybrids when the seed leaves appear.  Assistance will certainly be required.

johnw

[Tony Willis]

John that is good news. I had one germinate in December but the cold soon saw it of. I now have them just frost free and I see they are starting to germinate. Still on seeds the Helleborus thibetanus are through,how are yours?

[johnw]

John that is good news. I had one germinate in December but the cold soon saw it of. I now have them just frost free and I see they are starting to germinate. Still on seeds the Helleborus thibetanus are through,how are yours?

Tony - Seeds of your thibetanus had roots down last week when checked but tops are not showing yet.  They're in the same cold light room as the Podos at about 7c.  Fingers crossed.

Narcissus cyclamineus cw Feriera from Brian Duncan in 2008 are just coming up. I thought they were hopeless; I wanted to get different genes into my cyclamineus which have been repeatedly sibbed.  Also scads of Galanthus nivalis from Jelitto seed sown last spring, a few had come up almost immediately.  The first really good germination on Erythronium revolutum ever.

johnw

[johnw]

The first two seedlings have emerged above the surface of the pot soil - pleianthum x versepille.  The seeds coats have not been sluffed off yet so no id is possible yet.

johnw

[Tony Willis]

The first two seedlings have emerged above the surface of the pot soil - pleianthum x versepille.  The seeds coats have not been sluffed off yet so no id is possible yet.

johnw

John

thats good that they are moving along.

I now have lots germinating having brought them into a warmer room and a few have shed the seed coat.

I am interested to know how you are going to id them from the seed leaves?

[johnw]

Tony - I thought Robin had posted a shot of the differences in Podo spp. at the pre-true leaf stage. BNow I cannot find it or maybe I am thinking of Paris?

johnw

[Tony Willis]

Well the surprise will be all the greater when they produce their true leaves !

[WimB]

John,

there are some pics with cotyledons published by Robin here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2492.msg60465#msg60465

and here one year later:

http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3472.msg87216#msg87216

[Tony Willis]

Wim

thank you,I will now wait and see if mine conform.I did pollinate them carefully in order to try and keep them as pure species so it will be interesting to look at the results. A lot of (all) the plants in cultivation seem to have come from Chen yi and they are very variable.

[johnw]

Has anyone had problems getting the seed coat to sluff off Podophyllum seedlings?  Seems we had this problem awhile back with P. hexandrum.

johnw