Trillium

[Diane Whitehead]

Last one:  Deer's Dinner menu:  Trillium rivale - but just the three flowers.
I guess the leaves are not tasty.

[mark smyth]

great to see them in the wild. I have a lone pusillum that need a full name if it has one. The petal backs are deep pink almost red

[Paul T]

Diane,

Thanks for the pics.  Can I convience you to sell me some seed from that lovely deep pink rivale? LOL  That has got to be one of the strongest colours in rivale I have seen.  In person I've only ever seen palest pink, but I have hopes for some interesting bits from Michael's seed from last year.  Fingers are crossed for some interesting stuff there, and if something as deep a pink as that were to appear I would be positively ecstatic!! 

Really good to see what they are like in the wild.  I honestly didn't realise that the wild plants were that variable..... I sort of thought that, as with so many things we have, they were selectively bred in captivity to get the stronger colours.

Great stuff!!  Thanks again.

[Maggi Young]

Oh, Diane, how super! I am interested to see that several forms you show have very full, rounded shapes to the blooms..... Yummy! But sadly the deer think so, too.
 

Aaron, you are right to have reservations about the scent feature that I wished for.... I had, in my enthusiasm, forgotten that there are as many nasty scents as gorgeous ones, so I will amend my desires accordingly... Now I want a scent feature... with an on/off switch ! 

As I type this, I'm aware of another tapping sound... it is hailstones against the window... hail is our major "pest" of trillium... we have in the past watched aghast as big hail stones literrally punched their way through big, beautiful trillium leaves and left them looking awful. This is, I trust, just a quick shower of fraily small hail, so perhaps there will not be too much damage.  Though there are roe deer in the vicinity, we are fortunate that our garden is not accessible to these creatures.

[Paddy Tobin]

Diane,

Wondereful photographs. Many thanks.

Those deer are a nuisance.

Paddy

[Anthony Darby]

That pink rivale is really nice Diane. I'm really into pink trilliums and am gutted that my T.rivale 'Purple Heart' seems to have disappered. Really strange, as there are numerous tiny grandiflorum seedlngs sprouting in the very spot where 'Purple herat' isn't, so it can't be the conditions?

The jury seems to be out on whether 'Del Norte' is a hybrid or just a form of rivale. Consensus seems to favour the latter?

[Michael J Campbell]

Maggi, I was looking in the old forum and noticed that you requested some seed of a trillium Rivale that I posted. Did I ever send it to you?
I don't remember. If not I will have lots of seed this year or tubers if you would like them.
Cheers.

[Maggi Young]

Michael, you know, I don't believe you did send seed. I would be delighted to get some this year, or a tuber if you would be so kind as to spare one.
Many thanks indeed,
Maggi

[Michael J Campbell]

Will send you some tubers when they start to die back, I have lots of tubers.
Remind me again about the end of May as the head is not as good as it used to be.

[Maggi Young]

Remind me again about the end of May as the head is not as good as it used to be. 

I have written that on the calendar, Michael, since my head's not so hot nowadays, either!!
Thank you!
M

[Paul T]

Howdy All,

While we're mentioning rivale..... if anyone has seedset and spare seed on their silver veined leaf-forms of rivale, please contact me.  I would be willing to buy or trade for some of these.  Except for pictures here on the SRGC I didn't know there WERE rivales with silver veinings etc on the leaves.  To be honest I am interested in any interesting rivales of any description.  I just LOVE that species and would love to get a collection together of all different types nad forms.  I would love seed of 'Purple Heart' on of these years, even knowing that the seedlings may be nothing like the parent..... still worth a try in case.  At this point I have various spottings on white and palest pink in rivale, plus seed from last year from Michael.  I am after anything else, knowing that it will take a while of course as they have to come from seed.  Unless of course there are Aussies here who have different forms who are willing to sell or trade.

I thought this was worth posting here instead of in the seed area.

I have also seen mention recently elsewhere or silver leaf T. luteums?  What do these look like?  Are they veined like the luteums or do they have silver overlay on the leaf?  I have seen marbling on Trillium leaves (although I have never seen in person marbling as strong as so many of those posted here on the SRGC.  None of mine have ever exhibited such strong markings unfortunately) but never silver shadings to my knowledge, not even in pictures.  Does anyone have any pictures that they could post?

Thanks in anticipation.

[John Forrest]

Beautiful Trillium Mark. I have 3 types , the one that looks like yours came to me as just T. pusillum
1 T pusillum

2 T.p. ssp georgianum tends to be white but blushes at the backs with age.

3 T.p. ssp alabamicum starts off paale and starts to blush on both sides.

4 and lasts for a very long time, deepening to a dark red.


Whether these are all reliably named, I can't say but came from a reliable source.

[Diane Whitehead]

A couple of years ago I saw a Trillium rivale in Thimble Farms garden that had two
different flowers.  I remarked to Richard Fraser, the owner, that two seeds must
have sprouted and grown together.  He said he had first thought that, but
when he dug the plant up to check, he found that there was only one rhizome.
Not only that, but the plant varies from year to year as to which end is darker.

He got the plant as Purple Heart from the O'Byrnes of Northwest Garden Nursery
in Eugene, Oregon, U.S.A.  They haven't had this happen to any of their plants.

Here is the two toned one at Thimble Farms:


And here is one at the O'Byrnes.

[Susan Band]

Diane,
 Like you, I noticed that there were variations on the colours within the same plants of Trillium rivale, some flowers were plain white whereas some were pink spotted. Don't know if it is the same every year as they are only young plants.

[Lesley Cox]

So a sport on the `Purple Heart' clone?