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Lesley Cox

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Re: Lilium 2009
« Reply #120 on: July 05, 2009, 09:02:34 PM »
Thank you for the link lesson. I'll have to practise :D
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Re: Lilium 2009
« Reply #121 on: July 05, 2009, 09:03:05 PM »
Thanks Lesley.
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Re: Lilium 2009
« Reply #122 on: July 05, 2009, 09:09:49 PM »
Quote from: Rafa on July 05, 2009, 07:22:15 PM
beautiful species John, I love both!
Thank you for the ID, I was looking for this name in IPNI, but no results, Is var. kaichen very new species?

Rafa - Remember only the grayi is mine,  the majoense is pasted from a July 2005 posting from John Hampshire for Lesley.

I don't know how valid var. kaichen is, it originated from Chen Yi I hear.

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Re: Lilium 2009
« Reply #123 on: July 06, 2009, 12:45:59 AM »
The markings on the majoense are just amazing. 8)
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Re: Lilium 2009
« Reply #124 on: July 06, 2009, 09:49:32 PM »
Rafa,
I do not think this is formosanum. As you say look at the leaves.
Lilium formosanum
Leaves 10-12 cm long 4-7mm wide. Linear to narrowly lanceolate
Lilium longiflorum.
Leaves 8-15cm long 1-1.8cm wide. Lanceolate to oblong lanceolate.
Most trumpet lilies occur in China so I suggest a visit to the homepage of Flora of China.
Re kaichen. The plants from Chen Yi = Kaichen are often misnamed and sometimes varieties unknown to (western) botanists. Thus some people have resorted to call some of the varieties ‘kaichen’ to distinguish from other varieties. Not botanically correct but at least a name and one that works.
Yes Lesley, Majoense is another name for ochraceum but the whole complex ochraceum-primulinum-burmanicum-nepalense- is very floating. Majoense seems to differ from the ‘normal’ ochraceum in the flower shape.
Lijiangense is definitely yellow all over and has many flowers on good spikes.
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Re: Lilium 2009
« Reply #125 on: July 06, 2009, 11:00:57 PM »
The L. lijiangense is very beautiful Gote. It looks very thick and waxy-textured too. I love that spotting.
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Re: Lilium 2009
« Reply #126 on: July 06, 2009, 11:44:05 PM »
Beautiful, Göte.  Great colour and shapre.  I like the canadense (I think?) in the background too.
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Re: Lilium 2009
« Reply #127 on: July 06, 2009, 11:51:59 PM »
John and Göte, thank you very much for clarify me about these Lilium, I don't know much about this genus, so thank you for this interesting information.
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Re: Lilium 2009
« Reply #128 on: July 07, 2009, 08:17:03 AM »
Quote from: Paul T on July 06, 2009, 11:44:05 PM
Beautiful, Göte.  Great colour and shapre.  I like the canadense (I think?) in the background too.
Yep canadense
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Re: Lilium 2009
« Reply #129 on: July 07, 2009, 08:18:57 AM »
Quote from: Lesley Cox on July 06, 2009, 11:00:57 PM
The L. lijiangense is very beautiful Gote. It looks very thick and waxy-textured too. I love that spotting.
I find the black line intriguing. It only appears in certain Chinese lilies. I think it is a sign of relationship.
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Re: Lilium 2009
« Reply #130 on: July 08, 2009, 07:09:32 AM »
Gote, very beautiful lily! As a toy! :)
« Last Edit: July 08, 2009, 07:13:03 AM by The Russian »
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Re: Lilium 2009
« Reply #131 on: July 08, 2009, 08:19:41 PM »
A lily I got from Chenyi as Lilium gloriosoides to replace an earlier correct one which I thought had died but is coming again.
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Re: Lilium 2009
« Reply #132 on: July 08, 2009, 08:31:24 PM »
Wow! I do like that pagoda shape and parchment colouring, together with sandlewood look-alike anthers Tony  :)
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Re: Lilium 2009
« Reply #133 on: July 08, 2009, 11:18:26 PM »
But surely not gloriosoides which is a var or ssp of speciosa??? It certainly isn't very Gloriosa-like. ???
« Last Edit: July 08, 2009, 11:20:00 PM by Lesley Cox »
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Re: Lilium 2009
« Reply #134 on: July 09, 2009, 12:17:26 AM »
Lesley,

I think his comment "An earlier correct one" was a give-away that he didn't think that the new replacement was correct.  ;D  I rather like the replacement.  Interesting colour, form and substance to it. I wonder what it actually is?
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