Lilium 2009

[vanozzi]

Hello people
               I've been a lurker for a few years now and enjoying all the posts, so maybe it's about time I contributed.

My understanding of martagons is that there are 5 species in the group.
Martagon itself (that's the pinkish one that everybody knows), hansonii, tsingtauense, medeoloides and distichum.The last 3 are in various orange shades, tsingtauense being the "hottest" orange.All 5 will cross with each other.

Then there are several varieties of some of the species ---album,cattaniae, albiflorum, daugava, caucasicum etc.All these varieties will breed with each other and with the 5 species.

Herr Otto Beutnagel of Germany bred your Brunsweik, Elena.I believe it should be more yellow than your photo shows--the parents were Terrace City Hybrids  X  tsingtauense and it can carry more than 36 blooms! Lucky you!!
Regards
Paul Rumkorf

[Maggi Young]

Hello, Paul, great to have you begin posting after all this time.... thanks for your Lily input. 

[Lesley Cox]

Welcome to the Forum Paul, that's 2 Aussies called Paul. You'll have to be 1 and 2.

What a fantastic collection of fabulous lilies in the last couple of weeks. I like the species best but all are quite lovely.

Too many to comment about except to ask, John, in NS, is your L. nepalense fragrant? I've never noticed that though it's in a part of the garden that I don't visit at night. I'll have to change that as I love night-scented plants.

[mark smyth]

I never thought there were so many colour forms/ssp of the martagon lily

[Paul T]

Welcome Paul.  Good to have you here, as well as seeing your postings on Lilium-L. 

[johnw]

Too many to comment about except to ask, John, in NS, is your L. nepalense fragrant? I've never noticed that though it's in a part of the garden that I don't visit at night. I'll have to change that as I love night-scented plants.

Lesley - Welcome back, we missed you desperately. There were more falling cakes in your absence than we care to admit.

Yes the Lilium nepalense is very fragrant, more so on warm humid summer nights.   A real joy and they have been hanging on for a long time, two more just out last night.

johnw

[rob krejzl]

Hi Paul,

Is it just me, or have you lost weight? Can I ask how the snowdrops are doing in Victoria?

[Regelian]

I have only started growing Lilium over the last few years and have had many losses along the way.  My soil is a bit to heavy for many types, but, as I've been ammending the soil for some 8 years, now, I am re-trying various types.  I have lots of seedlings from crosses and species coming along, but won't see flowers for some years.

Any of you experts, I have heard one shouldn't grow L. lancifolium, if one wishes to keep their lilies virus-free.  Any truth to this?  Would be a disappointment, as I have a few plants doing quite well

Here are a few classics from the Orientpets

Conca d'Or
Black Beauty
Palmyra
Palmyra

[gote]

Yes L lancifolium can be virus infected.
The problem is severe since nearly all that are grown in Europe are the same triploid sterile clone. Thus we cannot 'clean' it by sowing seed.
If you can get hold of the diploid form as seed you are of course safe.
The yellow lancifoium is diploid and comes true from seed.
Göte

[Regelian]

Thanks, Göte,

what is the normal chromosome count for L. lancifolium?  Anyone?

[rob krejzl]

Diploid forms 2n = 24

[gote]

My duchartreiis do not flower so profusely as Ian's do so I show only one flower.  
I think the bud is equisite the colours are enev netter in real life.
My distichum has four flowers this year. It is a smallish species but very bright.
I agree perhaps some of the orange in Elena's hybrids originally came from here.
It id funny in not being symmetric.

By the way, Elena your martagon hybrids are fantastic.
Cheers
Göte

[vanozzi]

Hi Paul,

Is it just me, or have you lost weight? Can I ask how the snowdrops are doing in Victoria?

G'day Rob, I sold my collection of snowies to Danielle before leaving Tassie 2 years ago this Sept.Big mistake, but I did keep a small box of my seedlings that are quite a few years off from flowering.Otto also gave me 7 species,6 of which are flowering now.

LOL lost weight, yes, and along with my super, I'm fading

Thanks for the welcome to the forum, people.
Back to Liliums.
For those interested in martagons, have a look at "MARTAGON LILIES" by Eugene Fox. There is also a super CD on martagons put out by the North Star Lily Society.The photography is superb.
Regards
Paul R

[Lori S.]

Ah, yes, Eugene Fox of the now defunct "Fox Lily Ranch" (mail order lily source) in Millet, Alberta, about 2 1/2 hours north of here... recently deceased, sadly, but his stocks were taken over by Estate Perennials, also in the Edmonton, Alberta area.

[vanozzi]

Very nice distichum, Gote. I haven't got that species yet, but in the last two years am rapidly building up the collection again.
Using two periods of warm/cold I believe I can flower martagons in four years.I use a large commercial soft drink fridge, but am running out of space and am on the lookout for another One of my main aims is to try to breed martagons that will stand Melbourne's summers, and still retain their graceful beauty.So the trait of early flowering would be an advantage.
Does anybody know of anyone having success with a heat hardiness breeding programme with martagons?
Here is Hansonii, a treasured gift from the late Essie Huxley, flowering from last year.I pollinated it with two different seedlings, plus the pollen from cattaniae that a friend gave me.The seed set was excellent.
Regards
Paul R