Thank you all very much for the lovely warm welcome and keeping the information of a tiny light Amateur worthy for discussion.
Hi Chris 
Mine have survived just fine, dry and a little colder than -10C. I know, unbelievably cold for here! One in the garden didn't survive.
I have had masses of flowers, and it looks like plenty of capsules forming. My experience is that the seed won't germinate until next spring, but fingers crossed I'll squeeze out some flowers next summer.
Hi Ian
, thank you very much for posting your splendid photo of
D. dyeri ex MG. Looks like under your specific CCCs the flowers are staying somewhat paler. They are resembling under your conditions notably more Delosperma sp. Sani Pass II, than a real D. dyeri sensu Dold & Hammer. What we have got here with D. sp. Sani Pass II is in my lumping eyes rather a second strain of the natural hybrid D. dyeri.
The until today surviving D. dyeri ex MG seedlings developed under my CCCs, standing outdoors in front of my windows real splendid leaf colors.
(All photos left untouched, no experimental firmware overdrive)
MG#1 shot on November 1st, 2009, no sun in sight for weeks, thus a bit darkened
MG#1 finally a short sunny shot on Nov. 20th 2009, not seen a single flower until today.
MG#1, habitus on May 29. 2010
MG#2 also on Nov. 20th 2009, this plant was shown flowering in the Avonia-Newsletter
MG#2 on June 3, 2010
MG#2 on June 4, 2010
MG#2 on June 4, 2010
Chris,
I'm not sure whether you've seen these hybrids, originally from Gordon Rowley. There are three different clones, all crosses between D. kofleri and D. nubigenum. The photos are closeups of small plants, but they are very hardy, very floriforous, and now filling large pots. One is shown next to D. nubigenum.
Ian,
yes i saw it and probably most of your splendid woldwide input in succulent fora, think you posted also some photos in the BCSS, did'nt you?
I understand the reason for your kindly hint, thank you very much.
The Royal Conundrum of Mr. Gordon Rowley I kindly received once 2 of these hybrids from the UK, labeled
Hybrid A &
Hybrid B with the according information "
hybrids of South African origin, created by Gordon Rowley" and i understood very well, why further information was left away - as a help. Well, it took at that time only a short phone call to get the suggested missing information, but in my very own tiny universe it was impossible to confirm this info. Thus it was necessary to look behind my botanical analogue of Planck's wall checking up the F1 generation for generating further information, which was finally possible in 2009. This brought an amazing result in understanding the solution of this splendid conundrum of a great English Gentleman, spreading this way one of the greatest examples of fine English Humor in an incredible commendable altruistic way. It is still matter of an unpublished article, thus i cannot tell more in public this time, but you can get corresponding photos and some information via mail from me Ian, if likened.
Ah, thank you, Josef.... we Scots get everywhere, it seems.
Dear Maggi,
Indeed, looks a lot like Scots get really everywhere.
But first coming to your request about D. aberdeenense, which is obviously attended by some unwanted mistakes in modern literature, thus here is a better introduction of this pretty nice Lowender of a certain cluster within genus Delosperma.
The botanical phrase of D. aberdeenense should published online rather look like this
Delosperma aberdeenense (L.Bol.) L.Bolus NM 1928: 135 ≡
M. aberdeenense L.Bolus ABH 1923: 171
HT Frith 436/18 (3x BOL, in schedis!; 4x ISO K, in schedis!)
(NM = Notes on Mesembrianthemum and allied genera; ABH = Annals of the Bolus Herbarium)
Related herbar sheets
BOL131249 HThttp://ts-den.aluka.org/fsi/img/size3/alukaplant/bol/phase_01/bol0009/bol131249.jpgBOL131250 HThttp://ts-den.aluka.org/fsi/img/size3/alukaplant/bol/phase_01/bol0000/bol131250.jpgBOL1312514 HThttp://ts-den.aluka.org/fsi/img/size3/alukaplant/bol/phase_01/bol0001/bol131251.jpgK000077216 ISOhttp://www.kew.org/herbcatimg/150697.jpgK000077217 ISOhttp://www.kew.org/herbcatimg/150698.jpgK000077218 ISOhttp://www.kew.org/herbcatimg/150699.jpgK000077219 ISOhttp://www.kew.org/herbcatimg/150700.jpgK000077152 unpublished under
Delosperma retextum N.E.Brown (June 2, 1933)
http://www.kew.org/herbcatimg/141259.jpgHolotype drawing of
M. aberdeenense by
Mary Maud Page [1867-1925] from January 1920, today attached on BOL135369 stored in the Herbarium Bolusianum (BOL)
M. aberdeenense in ABH 1923: 171
Quote:
—Humile, minute papillosum, papillis in setam patentem abeuntibus, ob has omnibus partibus herbaceis pubescentibus;
ramis confertis, demum diffuse decumbentibus, hispidis glabrescentibus,
internodiis 1—2.5 cm. longis;
folia adscendentia, dorso rotundata, supra plana, acuta, 0.4—2 cm. longa, ad 0.5 cm. lata diametroque;
flores 5-meridie expansi, 3-nati, 1.5 cm. diam.,
pedunculis 0.4—1 cm. longis, lateralibus infra medium bracteatis;
calycis tubus crateriformis,
segmentis lanceolatis acutis, inter se subaequilongis, 0.5 cm. longis, tribus membranaceo-marginatis;
petala pluriseriata linearia obtusa, basin versus parum angustata, rubro-purpurea, 0.6 cm. longa, ad 0.1 cm. lata, interiora in
staminodia gradatim abeuntia;
stamina collecta incurvata, staminodiis apice recurvatis circumdata,
filamentis inferne pallidis, superne purpurascentibus, interioribus barbatis, ad 0.2 cm. longis,
antheris luteis;
discus e glandulis 5, transverse linearibus, compositus;
ovarium supra planum, sine medio vero parum elevato,
stigmatibus subulatis, longe setaceo-acuminatis, 0.15 cm. longis;
capsula 0.7 cm. diam.
Cape Province: Karroo Region; Aberdeen Road, F. Frith (National Botanic Gardens, No. 436/18). Described from living specimens which have flowered for several years at Kirstenbosch during December and January.
NoteC:
Did not seen authentically material from Aberdeen Road until today, but Delosperma sp. PV1304 (PV = Petr Pavelka) from Modderpoort (OFS) seems to be conspecific in my lumping eyes. This taxon is the Lowender of a certain cluster within genus, but more I cannot tell in public these days. It is also matter of an unfinished and unpublished article, but I can give you some further information via email Maggi, if likened.
But now to a much more interesting point of Scottish activities on botanical research
The first persons digging for Nuggets on Sani Top were evidently not Sean Hogan and Mache Parker Sanderson in 1992 (as given by Panayoti in June 2005 Volume 8, Issue 6, POI, Newsletter of the Colorado Cactus & Succulent Society), but two excellent botanists working for a pretty nice Royal Botanic Garden in Caledonia. They were already years before Sean Hogan & Mache Parker Sanderson wise enough to look at this nuggestoid species as a very doubtful
Delosperma, as their recorded comment “
Delosperma? sp. Bare patches in grassland, c. 2800 m, Sani Top only; small mats, yellow flowers.” clearly proves to show (edit: Hilliard & Burrt 1987). PD Dr. H.E.K.Hartmann suggested here once (2009, pers. comm.) the influence of
Mossia intervallaris. Reasonably possible, but in my eyes
Rabiea albinota should rather be seen as main strain for this excellent hardy species. If you look at the pretty nice photo (NBI) of
R. albinota in Mesembs of the World, page 227, you could hawkeyed see already the first rising of a somewhat oblong difformed flower, like often as well found in nuggetoid tribes. Also the influence of
R. difformis could perhaps be a good candidate, but I have both not under culture, thus it is topical not more than a rather reasonable suggestion. However, the variation of capsule locules in genus
Rabiea is corresponding very well with those found in the nuggetoid tribes.
(edit: the Czech citation and welsh response was deleted)
But more tomorrow or on Sunday - it's now time for a pretty nice barbecue
Have a nice weekend
-Chris
