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Luc Gilgemyn

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Rhodophiala elwesii
« on: July 07, 2009, 05:27:53 PM »
I need some more help...

This was sown as Rhodophiala elwesii - in which case it should have been yellow I believe...

It clearly isn't.
Any ideas of what it really is ??

Thanks for any help !
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Re: Rhodophiala elwesii
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2009, 05:43:37 PM »
R. advena possibly Luc ???
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Re: Rhodophiala elwesii
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2009, 08:13:48 PM »
Quote from: Luc Gilgemyn on July 07, 2009, 05:27:53 PM
I need some more help...

This was sown as Rhodophiala elwesii - in which case it should have been yellow I believe...

It clearly isn't.
Any ideas of what it really is ??

Thanks for any help !

Luc - Some elwesii from JJA are pale yellow, some yellow and pale salmon and asome with slightly more salmon than yellow.  A few here in bloom plus auracana JJA (????) just about to open. Can send a shot if needed and seed when ripe.

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Re: Rhodophiala elwesii
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2009, 09:35:36 PM »
This looks what I have under a BCW number (lost). I have a dozen seedlings and the first was pale yellow and others were this colour and variously striped lemon/yellow,pinkish/salmon. Maybe some hybrid blood?
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Re: Rhodophiala elwesii
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2009, 08:57:42 AM »
Thanks for the ideas everyone !

This is from srgc seed - so no idea about origin.

John,
Could you possibly post some pix of yours for comparison.

I must add the colour of thise is more towards red than salmon - the pictures are not 100%
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Re: Rhodophiala elwesii
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2009, 12:00:27 PM »
Quote from: Luc Gilgemyn on July 08, 2009, 08:57:42 AM
Thanks for the ideas everyone !

This is from srgc seed - so no idea about origin.

John,
Could you possibly post some pix of yours for comparison.

I must add the colour of thise is more towards red than salmon - the pictures are not 100%

Here a pale yellow Rhodophiala elwesii (ex cw JJA  - collected wild Jim & Jenny Archibald seed) from last year Luc. The stigma looks different.

johnw
« Last Edit: July 08, 2009, 12:03:55 PM by johnw »
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Re: Rhodophiala elwesii
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2009, 12:30:09 PM »
Luc ,

nice plants !
How long from sowing to flowers ?
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Re: Rhodophiala elwesii
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2009, 05:22:10 PM »
Luc - And a couple more Rhodophiala elwesii  from today. The salmon parts are looking quite pink, we have had but a few hours of sun in the last month, the yellow almost ivory. The first flower shown and from the same seed lot has broader petals than the others, a little odd looking - hybridity or natural variation?.

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« Last Edit: July 09, 2009, 01:20:50 AM by johnw »
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Re: Rhodophiala elwesii
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2009, 08:07:02 AM »
Thanks again John - it seems to remain a mystery as to what it is exactly - I guess it must be a hybrid.
Very nice specimen you posted !!  :)

Hans,
It was grown from AGS seed (not SRGC as I wrote earlier) sown in December 2006.

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Re: Rhodophiala elwesii
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2009, 08:13:46 AM »
 :o :o :o

Luc ....it is for me unbelievable ....in 3 years  ::)
you must have a perfect treatment for this bulbs !
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Re: Rhodophiala elwesii
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2009, 12:19:52 PM »
Quote from: Hans J on July 10, 2009, 08:13:46 AM
:o :o :o

Luc ....it is for me unbelievable ....in 3 years  ::)
you must have a perfect treatment for this bulbs !

And for me as well. I think mine took 6-7 years to flower.

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Re: Rhodophiala elwesii
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2009, 03:46:15 PM »
Hey! Hans, John,
 I know Luc's secret....... he feeds his flowers Belgian chocolate... that is why they grow so well!    ;D ;)
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Re: Rhodophiala elwesii
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2009, 12:26:37 AM »
Quote from: Maggi Young on July 10, 2009, 03:46:15 PM
Hey! Hans, John,
 I know Luc's secret....... he feeds his flowers Belgian chocolate... that is why they grow so well!    ;D ;)

I know too well the hazards of entering one of the many shops called Leonidas in Antwerp.  One could well become rather bulbous in a hurry.

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« Last Edit: July 11, 2009, 03:04:17 AM by johnw »
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Re: Rhodophiala elwesii
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2009, 10:20:42 AM »
Quote from: johnw on July 11, 2009, 12:26:37 AM
Quote from: Maggi Young on July 10, 2009, 03:46:15 PM
Hey! Hans, John,
 I know Luc's secret....... he feeds his flowers Belgian chocolate... that is why they grow so well!    ;D ;)

I know too well the hazards of entering one of the many shops called Leonidas in Antwerp.  One could well become rather bulbous in a hurry.

johnw

Actually, there should be no misunderstanding - it wasn't me that grew these - it was my dear friend and lurker Luc II who some might remember from previous posts...
I doubt it wether he would be feeding chocolate to his bulbs... he likes to eat it himself  ;D ;D  as we Belgians all do...  ::)  ... and not only Belgians for that matter...  ;)

Anyway, he rechecked his recodrds and did confirm decmber 2006 as being the sowing date
 ??? :-\
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Re: Rhodophiala elwesii
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2009, 11:44:53 AM »
You can certainly get R. bifida to flower in three years from seed, but then again it is an easy species and I happen to live in a warm, temperate climate...  8) ...would I only have such success with R. bagnoldii!
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