Seed Ripeness Question

[cohan]

also very interesting on the names--the little reading i did suggested labradorica was a form of adunca, but that probably means the real species, although they showed pictures of the purple foliage plant which you say is rivianna, and that is what i have....

Cohan,
The taxonomic position of Viola labradorica seems to be doubtful - an American friend told me that it also could be near to Viola conspersa (also to adunca - as you already wrote). I must admit that I'm not up to date.

Gerd

thanks gerd--really it doesn't matter to me yet, since the plant i have is apparently not the real labradorica, anyway..lol

göte--your garden must be a delightful place i'f like to have bulbs in my grass too, but i have a feeling most of my yard is too shady for that..native woodland species are successful, though

[Rodger Whitlock]

I have never understood why the "floor" of a garden must look like green paint on concrete.

The American economist Thorsten Veblen explained that about a century ago. Look for his "Theory of the Leisure Class".

Crumbs, Rodger.... you must be older than you look?  



sorry! couldn't resist !   

I'm just well-read, perhaps overly well-read. To demonstrate that fact, I will mention that my latest purchases include Spinoza's Tractatus Theologico-politicus and the works of Thomas Paine. Thorsten Veblen is a mere bijou from my mis-spent youth.

[Luc Gilgemyn]

I have never understood why the "floor" of a garden must look like green paint on concrete.

The American economist Thorsten Veblen explained that about a century ago. Look for his "Theory of the Leisure Class".

Crumbs, Rodger.... you must be older than you look?  



sorry! couldn't resist !   

In football, you'd make a great center forward Maggi (and make loads of money...), you hardly ever miss a chance.

[Maggi Young]

Rodger, I do not believe it possible to be TOO well-read---- especially if one is an author 



Luc, you are too kind.... if you only knew how often I hold back......

[gote]

I have never understood why the "floor" of a garden must look like green paint on concrete.

The American economist Thorsten Veblen explained that about a century ago. Look for his "Theory of the Leisure Class".

Crumbs, Rodger.... you must be older than you look?  
sorry! couldn't resist !   

I'm just well-read, perhaps overly well-read. To demonstrate that fact, I will mention that my latest purchases include Spinoza's Tractatus Theologico-politicus and the works of Thomas Paine. Thorsten Veblen is a mere bijou from my mis-spent youth.

I wish I had the time to read Spinoza - but I would probably prefer to stick to Shonagon. 
Göte

[gote]

By the way I physically refute Veblen.
I am a dolichocephal and was fairly blond as a kid and I joke about green concrete 
His theories are utter rubbish.
Göte

[Lesley Cox]

Don't think I'll dare speak to Rodger direct again, probably to Gote either. I'll do it through you Maggi, or through God.

[Maggi Young]

Don't think I'll dare speak to Rodger direct again, probably to Gote either. I'll do it through you Maggi, or through God.

 Not to worry, Lesley, none of these old writers knew a ripe seed from a theory, so we needn't fret. 

[Rodger Whitlock]

By the way I physically refute Veblen. ...His theories are utter rubbish.

I've always had a fondness for his explanation of the Anglo-Saxon taste for green sward in gardens. He asserts that it's because the ancestors of northern Europeans were sheep herders, so a green field dotted with sheep was a thing of special beauty. Indeed, when you stop and think about it, any large lawn would look better for having a few sheep on it.

Just how this inherent taste is stamped on successive generations, esp. once the people left the land for the cities, Veblen does not explain.

[Rodger Whitlock]

Don't think I'll dare speak to Rodger direct again, probably to Gote either. I'll do it through you Maggi, or through God.

Fear not, Lesley. It's true that 40 years ago I amused my friends (and startled my enemies) by proposing to become a sybil living in a cave in and writing oracular utterances on dried oak¹ leaves, but the monetary side of that career choice didn't look too promising. And besides, have you ever looked closely at the Sibyls in the Sistine Chapel frescoes by Michelangelo? Cripey, it would take some serious surgical rearrangement of the olde bodie to get the right look!

I have a funny idea Maggi is preparing a new thread "Sibylline utterances" and will be moving our sillier postings to it. But after all, it's August, the silly season in the northern hemisphere.


¹. specifically the leaves of Quercus garryana, a native of the Pacific NW.

[Lesley Cox]

 Indeed, when you stop and think about it, any large lawn would look better for having a few sheep on it.

Not when they've come in from a neighbour's place, tramped up the drive and through the rock garden to get there.

[cohan]

Indeed, when you stop and think about it, any large lawn would look better for having a few sheep on it.

Not when they've come in from a neighbour's place, tramped up the drive and through the rock garden to get there.

no sheep arriving here, but the neighbour's cattle do.. it seems no one can really afford to make fences adequate to keep youngsters in if they decide to get out, luckily most adults are too lazy to bother..fortunately no damage so far...

[gote]

By the way I physically refute Veblen. ...His theories are utter rubbish.

I've always had a fondness for his explanation of the Anglo-Saxon taste for green sward in gardens. He asserts that it's because the ancestors of northern Europeans were sheep herders, so a green field dotted with sheep was a thing of special beauty. Indeed, when you stop and think about it, any large lawn would look better for having a few sheep on it.
Just how this inherent taste is stamped on successive generations, esp. once the people left the land for the cities, Veblen does not explain.

i looked a little on Veblen on the net and found ideas that I find not very attractive. In principle he seems to think that we are collecting plants because the super rich do that and we want to emulate them. Maybe I found the wrong quotations.
Göte.   

[gote]

Don't think I'll dare speak to Rodger direct again, probably to Gote either. I'll do it through you Maggi, or through God.

I suggest that you devote some googling to the word shonagon. You might be pleasantly suroprised
Göte

[Lesley Cox]

What a silly man. The super rich in NZ don't collect plants, they collect Porsches, Maseratis, super yachts etc.