We hope you have enjoyed the SRGC Forum. You can make a Paypal donation to the SRGC by clicking the above button

Author Topic: Nerine sarniensis '09  (Read 23376 times)

Brian Ellis

  • Brian the Britisher
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5205
  • Country: england
  • 'Dropoholic
Re: Nerine sarniensis '09
« Reply #75 on: October 05, 2009, 02:56:43 PM »
Lovely Mark, that Purple Robe seems a bit of a misnomer for a pink flower!
Brian Ellis, Brooke, Norfolk UK. altitude 30m Mintemp -8C

David Nicholson

  • Hawkeye
  • Journal Access Group
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13117
  • Country: england
  • Why can't I play like Clapton
Re: Nerine sarniensis '09
« Reply #76 on: October 06, 2009, 03:55:50 PM »
Just had a look at your Site Mark, you have done a good job there. I have tried a few in the garden over the years but have always lost them-probably too wet in the Summer-but they seem to thrive in a lot of Devon gardens. Can you say a bit more on how you grow them under glass please.
David Nicholson
in Devon, UK  Zone 9b
"Victims of satire who are overly defensive, who cry "foul" or just winge to high heaven, might take pause and consider what exactly it is that leaves them so sensitive, when they were happy with satire when they were on the side dishing it out"

mark smyth

  • Hopeless Galanthophile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15254
  • Country: gb
Re: Nerine sarniensis '09
« Reply #77 on: October 06, 2009, 04:29:05 PM »
David your Nerines growing outside shouldnt be affected by summer wet. Unlike other bulbs Nerine roots do not die back.

My Nerines used to be grown in a mix of top soil and grit 50/50 and some slow release fertiliser. As I learnt more the mix has changed. Nerines do not want rich mix. I know follow Ian Y's mix of 50/50 grit and sand with a wee bit of leaf mould.

They don't want to dry out so during the summer they get a small amount of rain when necessary. I take a pot off the root ball and if it is dry they all get water. When the leaves start to grow they get a good rain fall. When the leaves are dying down I feed with some tomoato food. The main change from 2010 is they will no longer spend all summer on the plunge. They will be under the plunge away from the heat - should we get a good summer.

My bulbs started out in 4inch / 10cm pots. When these started to bulge they went on to 1L square pots. Most are now in 2L square pots round bottom pots. Next year is repotting time again in to 3L long tom rose pots.

Right now they are all at the front of the house on a bench enjoying the sun. The first two to flower have fallen over because the lack of movement in the green house caused weak stems.
Antrim, Northern Ireland Z8
www.snowdropinfo.com / www.marksgardenplants.com / www.saveourswifts.co.uk

When the swifts arrive empty the green house

All photos taken with a Canon 900T and 230

mark smyth

  • Hopeless Galanthophile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15254
  • Country: gb
Re: Nerine sarniensis '09
« Reply #78 on: October 06, 2009, 04:51:17 PM »
Pots show when the bulbs need repotted
Antrim, Northern Ireland Z8
www.snowdropinfo.com / www.marksgardenplants.com / www.saveourswifts.co.uk

When the swifts arrive empty the green house

All photos taken with a Canon 900T and 230

mark smyth

  • Hopeless Galanthophile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15254
  • Country: gb
Re: Nerine sarniensis '09
« Reply #79 on: October 06, 2009, 04:53:27 PM »
Here's a fallen stem. I could put a small stake in to the pot but I'm not will to damamge roots
Antrim, Northern Ireland Z8
www.snowdropinfo.com / www.marksgardenplants.com / www.saveourswifts.co.uk

When the swifts arrive empty the green house

All photos taken with a Canon 900T and 230

ashley

  • Pops in from Cork
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2821
  • Country: ie
Re: Nerine sarniensis '09
« Reply #80 on: October 06, 2009, 04:54:49 PM »
Thanks for this summary of your methods Mark, just in time as I pot up a first sarniensis 8)
Well done on the updated pages; I like that N. undulata especially.
Ashley Allshire, Cork, Ireland

mark smyth

  • Hopeless Galanthophile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15254
  • Country: gb
Re: Nerine sarniensis '09
« Reply #81 on: October 06, 2009, 05:01:24 PM »
I hope the Nerine page makes more people buy these brillant bulbs. What was your source for your first bulb? What one did you buy?

I just noticed today that my flower pudica flowers has a petal on its stem
Antrim, Northern Ireland Z8
www.snowdropinfo.com / www.marksgardenplants.com / www.saveourswifts.co.uk

When the swifts arrive empty the green house

All photos taken with a Canon 900T and 230

Maggi Young

  • Forum Dogsbody
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 44701
  • Country: scotland
  • "There's often a clue"
    • International Rock Gardener e-magazine
Re: Nerine sarniensis '09
« Reply #82 on: October 06, 2009, 05:12:24 PM »
Mark, it won't be very pretty, but how about gaffer-taping a stake to the outside of the pot to support the falling stems? It may be enough to let you get seed set if you want that.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2009, 09:46:05 PM by Maggi Young »
Margaret Young in Aberdeen, North East Scotland Zone 7 -ish!

Editor: International Rock Gardener e-magazine

David Nicholson

  • Hawkeye
  • Journal Access Group
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13117
  • Country: england
  • Why can't I play like Clapton
Re: Nerine sarniensis '09
« Reply #83 on: October 06, 2009, 07:19:25 PM »
Mark, thanks for the info.
David Nicholson
in Devon, UK  Zone 9b
"Victims of satire who are overly defensive, who cry "foul" or just winge to high heaven, might take pause and consider what exactly it is that leaves them so sensitive, when they were happy with satire when they were on the side dishing it out"

johnw

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6696
  • Country: 00
  • rhodo-galantho-etc-phile
Re: Nerine sarniensis '09
« Reply #84 on: October 06, 2009, 09:38:04 PM »
Mark, it won't be very pretty, but how about gaffer-taping a stake to the oustide of the pot to support the falling stems? It may be enough to let you get seed set if you want that.

Hey, we get little 1-2ft hoops om a wire rod that clip on the edge of the pots.  Green poly-coated steel.  Might be hard to find as they come from the UK.

Just back briefly between garden tours and now Rarefind Nursery talk.

johnw
John in coastal Nova Scotia

johnw

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6696
  • Country: 00
  • rhodo-galantho-etc-phile
Re: Nerine sarniensis '09
« Reply #85 on: October 07, 2009, 07:58:05 PM »
A bit off topic but I wonder how members' Nerine bowdeniis behave in the late summer & autumn.  My plant in the ground is still fully leafed out with not even a hint of leaf tip die-back.  This of course means that it will be a very long time before the flower stalk(s) appear.  Last year I posted a photo of it in flower on the 10th of November and I think it lasted till the first good frost in early to mid December.  This year the bulbs got fairly dry during August and September which should have sparked leaf die-back, now that the monsoons are in full swing I don't expect the leaves will vanish until a frost.  Has anyone seen it flower with the leaves?

johnw
« Last Edit: October 07, 2009, 08:40:05 PM by johnw »
John in coastal Nova Scotia

johnw

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6696
  • Country: 00
  • rhodo-galantho-etc-phile
Re: Nerine sarniensis '09
« Reply #86 on: October 08, 2009, 05:08:25 PM »
Mark - The pink in reply #68 is getting ready to open. The flower count is 12. I think Sir Peter Smithers thought 14 was the starting point for selection.

johnw
John in coastal Nova Scotia

mark smyth

  • Hopeless Galanthophile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15254
  • Country: gb
Re: Nerine sarniensis '09
« Reply #87 on: October 08, 2009, 05:12:56 PM »
12 flowers is good. I must count mine now. Looking forward to your photo
Antrim, Northern Ireland Z8
www.snowdropinfo.com / www.marksgardenplants.com / www.saveourswifts.co.uk

When the swifts arrive empty the green house

All photos taken with a Canon 900T and 230

Brian Ellis

  • Brian the Britisher
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5205
  • Country: england
  • 'Dropoholic
Re: Nerine sarniensis '09
« Reply #88 on: October 09, 2009, 10:03:14 AM »
Quote
Has anyone seen it flower with the leaves?

At the moment, one is in flower with its leaves outside the kitchen, it is growing in the shade of Crinum x powellii so it is flowering through those leaves.  However, it could be that it is behaving like this as we have had no rain for so many weeks (until the day before yesterday).
Brian Ellis, Brooke, Norfolk UK. altitude 30m Mintemp -8C

mark smyth

  • Hopeless Galanthophile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15254
  • Country: gb
Re: Nerine sarniensis '09
« Reply #89 on: October 09, 2009, 10:11:51 AM »
John my Zeal Giant and Winter Sun have their leaves
Antrim, Northern Ireland Z8
www.snowdropinfo.com / www.marksgardenplants.com / www.saveourswifts.co.uk

When the swifts arrive empty the green house

All photos taken with a Canon 900T and 230

 


Scottish Rock Garden Club is a Charity registered with Scottish Charity Regulator (OSCR): SC000942
SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal