Crocus to identify? Post them here....

[Armin]

Did my very best, Luc.

Thomas,
thanks for the additional comments and for the straight tip.

[Janis Ruksans]

I completely agree with Thomas. I well remember how difficult it was for me to found the correct names of cultivars when I worked (40 years ago) on my first monograph on crocuses (published in 1981, in Latvian). Fortunately then still existed Van Tubergen nursery, which raised and grew most of those C. speciosus cultivars and they were more or less (more to more correct side) correctly named in this nursery. Now situation is much more difficult. Even if grower growth clean and correctly named stock, you can't to know how label could be changed by seller for comercial reasons. For seller lilac is lilac, and if he is short in Artabir, he could replace it with aitchisonii without remorse and noting you. Really I know only 3 cv which I can name without great problems - Artabir (largest flowers distinctly striped), Oxonian (purple tube) and Albus (no comments needed, although Brian Mathew in his monograph list another one white cv., too but I never found it on nursery lists).
Janis

[Lesley Cox]

Wise words, from Armin and Thomas. They point up so many problems with many crocuses (and Galanthus) and while we in the southern hemisphere may have many fewer forms of different species, I suspect we also miss out on the angst and puzzlement that many in the north experience as they try to identify and isolate each tiny variation. In the finish, it really does come down to enjoying what we have and not losing sleep over whether it is this, that or the other cultivar of a well-known species.

[Myriam Vandenberghe]

Thank you all for the warm welcome and your time! 

WOW Armin! your collection is stunningly beautiful, great pictures too!
They all have subtle variations what makes them even more enchanting!
Yes, you're all right  I shouldn'd worry about names and enjoy them like they are, I somehow knew it would be a mission impossible, even if I had put the lables I'm sure they would still show variety in the same group...

Your help and time have been very appriciated! Thank jou! 

[Paul T]

Welcome, Bonitin.

[Myriam Vandenberghe]

Thanks Paul! 

[ozgur70]

Hi.
This crocus species is from Turkey, Middle Anatolia, Karaman province.
I check all the yellow crocus but I couldn't match any of them.
What do you think about it.

[udo]

Hello Ozgur,
this is Crocus danfordiae.

[ozgur70]

Thank you very much.
It is so good to learn what it is.
My best regards.
Ozgur Kocak

[Janis Ruksans]

Hi.
This crocus species is from Turkey, Middle Anatolia, Karaman province.
I check all the yellow crocus but I couldn't match any of them.
What do you think about it.

Yes, it is danfordiae.
Janis

[ozgur70]

Than I want to ask some more crocus species
These are also from Karaman province... One of them is Colchicum...
And a bonus: Fritillaria pinardii.

[tonyg]

1 Maybe C flavus
1a Maybe C chrysanthus
2 & 4 C biflorus - others will know which ssp
3 C pallasii

[I.S.]

 Hi Özgür,
 It is very nice to see more crocuses from your location!
This time I agree with Tony.
1   C. flavus subsp. flavus (very short mostly yellow style)
1a C. chrysanthus (should have 3 red style)
2   C. biflorus subsp. tauri (without evident markings on outer petals)
2a C. biflorus subsp. tauri
3   C. pallasii subsp. pallasii
4   C. biflorus subsp. isauricus
5-6 Colchicum triphyllum (a small sipring flowering colchicum always with 3 leaves)
And the Fritillaria is right.
Is it posible to post one picture more from top view of first yellow one? because ıt does not seems to occur
in your region!

 

[Janis Ruksans]

Hi Özgür,
This time I agree with Tony.
1   C. flavus subsp. flavus (very short mostly yellow style)
1a C. chrysanthus (should have 3 red style)
2   C. biflorus subsp. tauri (without evident markings on outer petals)
2a C. biflorus subsp. tauri
3   C. pallasii subsp. pallasii
4   C. biflorus subsp. isauricus
5-6 Colchicum triphyllum (a small sipring flowering colchicum always with 3 leaves)
And the Fritillaria is right.

I agree with Ibrahim, only in picture # 1 my eyes don't show stigma and its branching, so may be subsp. dissectus, was my first opinion.
1-a - may be, 2a = may be, too
Others without doubt.
In attachment Colchicum triphyllum pictures.
Janis


Colchicum triphyllum -01.JPG
Colchicum triphyllum (falcifolium) Kazim-Kazbekir-2.JPG
Colchicum triphyllum Alhynala-1.jpg
Colchicum triphyllum BATM-350 -1.JPG

[ozgur70]

Hi İbrahim..
I coudnt take a top view picture of the first yelow crocus. But this is in the same places. Near 1 or 2 meter of the first photo. I hope ıt wil be helpfull.. The location of it is Karaman - Ermenek - Balkusan. Elevation 1800 m. 21 April.
Thanks.