Crocus to identify? Post them here....

[ozgur70]

I find an other picture. I am not sure this is the same crocus... The light seem it so different...

[I.S.]

Özgür,
  In this case I can not call them C. flavus specialy on your last frame. The second thing, C. flavus is not registered in Taurus mountains and in your province too!. In nort part of central Taurus, there is C. chrysanthus and the second yellow crocus is C. sieheanus but it is hard to tell from pictures because the difference is in the corms.
  I want to know that your biflorus (which I said C. biflorus tauri) is taken in Karaman, maybe in Antalya or Ankara!!  Because Janis is in doubt and He might be reason! But I am sure that in your province there is C . biflorus subsp. tauri recorded.

[ozgur70]

Hi İbrahim.
The photos which you say C. biflorus tauri is from Karaman-Sarıveliler Elevation is 1600 m.
C. biflorus isauricus is from Antalya-Konya road ~30 km to Manavgat. Near road.
C. pallasii is from the center of Karaman. A volcanic mountain called Karadag. Photos taken elevation is 1800-1900 m. October-december...

[Michael J Campbell]

Can someone ID these two for me please.

The second one was grown from seed as sieberi sublimis.

A pic of the leaves

[tonyg]

The yellow one loks like C flavus and the sieberi might be correct but the uniform pale colour suggests perhaps ssp atticus.

BTW your vernus 'heuffelianus'  in the main Crocus thread did not appear to have the dark tips I would have expected.

[Michael J Campbell]

BTW your vernus 'heuffelianus'  in the main Crocus thread did not appear to have the dark tips I would have expected.   

Thanks Tony, I am not surprised about the vernus 'heuffelianus' knowing the source it came from. Not my usual supplier

[ozgur70]

A new one from Turkey-Karaman.
Is it Crocus cancellatus?

[Armin]

Michael,
I concur with Tony. If the size is ~half of the Dutch vernus hybrids it resembles a form of C. vernus ssp. vernus or cv. Yalta (vernus x tommasinianus).

[Armin]

Ozgur,
it looks like a C. cancellatus too me. But I'm not confident in the ssp. mazziaricus or ssp. cancellatus. Ibrahim may know the local distribution.
When did you take the picture?

[ozgur70]

Picture was taken 09 November 2008.

[Armin]

Ozgur,
thanks. Your cancellatus has a nicely branched red style, really beautiful.

[I.S.]

  Yes Armin you are right. This is C. cancellatus subsp. mazziaricus. If you remenber last autumn Janis also post some supsp. mazziaricus from nort of Silifke. These both locations are very close to eachother.
  It does not seems very clear but Özgür's crocus has bracteole visible. So it is right mazziaricus.
 

 

[Armin]

Ibrahim,
many thanks for your help. I was not sure about bracteole.
Yes, I remember the great photos from Janis.

[ozgur70]

Today we go to Karadag. A Volcanic mountain in the middle of the Karaman plain.
We see a lot of Galanthus elwesii, two Crocus sp. and a Colchicum...
I think that the second one (k2-k2) is C. biflorus isauricus? But what about the first one.
The third one (k3-K3A) is a pink Colchicum But I think that it seems different with Colchicum triphyllum that I post before.
Thanks for your comments.
All they are in the same location. Elevation is 1550 m.

[Armin]

Özgür,
wow!  realy exquisite crocus and colchicum. Unfortunately I'm not able to identify them.
They all look C. biflorus but which ssp. ? Maybe also natural hybrids. But all very lovely.
Picture K2a resembles C. biflorus ssp. stridii but distribution is NO of Greece.
I don't know it growths in NW Turkey too.
Do you have more pictures showing them from the top?