Crocus to identify? Post them here....

[I.S.]

Janis on that report there were also the the keys for each subsp. but in turkish and they were all correct to me. For example between subsp. pallasii and dispathaceus; the feature is orange style for dispathaceus while subsp. pallasii has red. Here is another very good sample flrom last year.

[I.S.]

   Here is my kotschyanus with pointed location on the map. According to my this record, that is not surprise for me to see this plant just one step left. On that report shows GPS recerds too. One thay If I can have chance to visite that area. I can check by myself too.
   But my first question was Gerd's crocus from proximitly same location. Doest anybody see any sign of subsp. tauri on it?
   
   Janis I hope you are not tired of me!


   

[Hendrik Van Bogaert]

   Here is my kotschyanus with pointed location on the map. According to my this record, that is not surprise for me to see this plant just one step left. On that report shows GPS recerds too. One thay If I can have chance to visite that area. I can check by myself too.
   But my first question was Gerd's crocus from proximitly same location. Doest anybody see any sign of subsp. tauri on it?
   
   Janis I hope you are not tired of me!


   

Ibrahim,
Today sun in Belgium!
Herewith a picture of the inside of Crocus biflorus ssp. nubigena. Crocus biflorus subsp. caricus
I hope it will help you.
Best wishes
Hendrik

[I.S.]

Hendrik, This is a süper crocus! that is the thing what I was imagine
From new record because the area was right.
This is a C. biflorus subsp. caricus I am sure no doubt. You can change the label.

İbrahim
 

[Hendrik Van Bogaert]

Hendrik, This is a süper crocus! that is the thing what I was imagine
From new record because the area was right.
This a C. biflorus subsp. caricus I am sure no doubt. You can change the label.

İbrahim
 

Thank you very much!
Janis will be very happy.
I will change the label.
Hendrik

[Janis Ruksans]

Hendrik, This is a süper crocus! that is the thing what I was imagine
From new record because the area was right.
This a C. biflorus subsp. caricus I am sure no doubt. You can change the label.

İbrahim
 

Thank you very much!
Janis will be very happy.
I will change the label.
Hendrik

Greetings, greetings, greetings!!!!
Description of caricus (used publication of Erich Pasche)
Crocus biflorus subsp. caricus Kernd. & Pasche---is a basically white--colored subspecies with purple--striped backs of the flower segments, known from several localities in Caria, south--western Turkey, where it is locally abundant. It is somewhat similar to subsp. crewei, but differs in more numerous, though smaller leaves and distinct bronze--brown blotches in the yellow throat. In some forms the throat at the base is dark red--brown becoming orange and then yellow at the top. The filaments are very long and brown--violet throughout. So it will not be difficult to identify this subspecies. In the wild it grows on both calciferous and non--calciferous formations, where can be found on margins of pine forests, sometimes among or under Castanea sativa. In the wild it grows on both non--calcareous and calcareous soils.

Janis

[Armin]

Hendrik, wow
simply mouthwatering - a superb specis

[Luc Gilgemyn]

Awesome plant Hendrik  !!!! 

[Regelian]

I've always thought this was simply C. sieberi, and would like a general confirmation.  The white area is never very pronounced, therfore I though of ssp. atticus.  Any comments?  This was from a garden centre and has spread well throughout my lawn.

[Maggi Young]

Crocus sieberi atticus, indeed..... one of my favourites!

[Regelian]

Thanks, Maggie,  I was thinking it may well be Violet Queen, as I do remember buying bulbs some 8 or 10 years ago.  In any case, one of my favs in the garden.  I'm really getting to appreciate Crocus with this forum!

[Maggi Young]

Thanks, Maggie,  I was thinking it may well be Violet Queen, as I do remember buying bulbs some 8 or 10 years ago.  In any case, one of my favs in the garden.  I'm really getting to appreciate Crocus with this forum!

To be honest, Jamie, I never even though about the sieberi cultivar 'Violet Queen'

The colour does look a little brighter than I might expect but I put that down to lighting.... maybe it is the named cultivar... what do the others think?

[Armin]

Jamie, Maggi,
your crocus could be both cvs. "Violet Queen" or "Firefly". Both are breedings/selections of C. sieberi ssp. atticus and resemble each other.

Firefly: Throat yellow, petals mineral violet (HCC 635/3), inconspicuous greyish veins . Introduced by M. Thoolen 1956

Violet Queen: Throat yellow, flowers outside amethyst violet (HCC 35/2), inside lighter coloured with deep yellow centre. G.H. Hageman, receipt several awards 1955.

Violet Queen has more rounded pedals compared to Firefly.
Please post a picture when open.

[Janis Ruksans]

Regarding Crocus sieberi cultivars. At first I want inform that in my book as C. sieberi is regarded only Cretan plants (subsp. sieberi). Plants from mainland Greece (subsp. atticus, sublimis, nivalis) I separate as Crocus atticus with 3 subspecies (although I'm not common with subsp. nivalis). They are too different at first, their hybrids are sterile, in second. And they looks sufficiently different on phylogenetic tree, too. Here I'm attaching bad pictures of 'Violet Queen' and 'Firefly' - they are from 30 years old slides made on Soviet film and scanned this morning. As with other cultivars there are horrible mix on trade in last years when selling companies being short in some variety without twinges of conscience sell another one by wrong name. I'm not growing more those cultivars.

Janis

[Margaret Thorne]

Please can anyone tell me the name and anything about the distribution of this Crocus which I photographed on Samos in October 1993? My apologies for the fuzzy pictures which I assume are colour variants of the same species.
At the Early Bulb Show a couple of year’s ago, I think Janis showed a picture of a similar dark throated Crocus from Samos and called it a variety of Crocus pallasii. But I can’t remember the name of the variety.