Crocus to identify? Post them here....

[de.da.]

Thank you Gerry- I will do so.
Armin, I understand what you mean.
I will initially purchase additional types.
Most, some or chrysanthus vernus varieties.
First look at what next spring flowers at all.
To look better pictures than spend money on the composter!
One must not exaggerate so too!
Also, my comment was just a joke.
I'm going to the species in the summer like no sun to set (see photo).
In my list is a kind in which I have to consider special?
Thank you-Daniel
PS: I had read that C.banaticus C.nudiflorus and must be kept very simple and very beautiful. Is that true?

[de.da.]

HI!
Thats never a C.ochroleucus! 


Good night!

[Janis Ruksans]

Oh, yes!!!!

[de.da.]

What a fraud!
They probably think we are totally stupid!?
But I get back after a complaint by e-mail my money on the wrong C.pulchellus as a credit.
Daniel

[daveyp1970]

What a fraud!
They probably think we are totally stupid!?
But I get back after a complaint by e-mail my money on the wrong C.pulchellus as a credit.
Daniel

I think also they think we are stupid,but there are some very good and honest people on here that will send you 100% correctly named crocus.

[YT]

Hi all, This is the first flower of a seedling. I got the seeds from JJA December 2008 seed litst JJA 354.706 Crocus vitellinus, Lebanon, M'tein. 875m. Ex. R. & R. Wallis 99-26.

The flower is white and early for vitellinus blooming season. Then I checked JJA Master Seed List on SRGC site (thank you for the staffs!) but I could not find its seed code number... 

Please confirm its name, thank you.

JJA Seed List 2008 December
http://files.srgc.net/archibald/seedlists/JJA_seeds/JJA_seeds_2008_December.pdf

The Master List of Archibald Seed
http://files.srgc.net/archibald/seedlists/JJA_seedlist_master_SRGC.pdf

[Armin]

Hi Tatsuo,

just from image I would like to offer you two candidates either C. aleppicus (middle east) or C. veneris (Cyprus).
Please check the number of leaves.
3-4 veneris, 5-9 aleppicus.

[Janis Ruksans]

alepicus has very narrow white midvein on leaves, so my opinion is tjhat it could be veneris.
Janis

[Maggi Young]

Hi all, This is the first flower of a seedling. I got the seeds from JJA December 2008 seed litst JJA 354.706 Crocus vitellinus, Lebanon, M'tein. 875m. Ex. R. & R. Wallis 99-26.

The flower is white and early for vitellinus blooming season. Then I checked JJA Master Seed List on SRGC site (thank you for the staffs!) but I could not find its seed code number... 

Please confirm its name, thank you.

Tatsuo, I wrote to Bob Wallis to check his recollection of the seed number.... he says :

Mmm!  I am puzzled by this one.  We did indeed supply JJA with Crocus vitellinus seed from yellow flowering plants from this location and the RRW9926 number is correct for this introduction from M'tein.
 C vitellinus in Lebanon flowers in autumn or early winter so the timing is correct.  However all of ours were yellow flowered with no markings on the outside.
 
The photograph presented is not like C vitellinus but it could just be a white sport.  The only other Crocus in this locality is C ochroleucus which is white but it has white stamens so it is not that either.  The only way to be sure what it is is to see the corm tunic which is quite distinct in C vitellinus with its parallel fibres and the fact that it splits off leaving coarse, tooth-like, edges at the base.
 
The flower looks like a Crocus cancellatus and I wonder if there has been a mix up somewhere.  Again the come tunic will be diagnostic.  Very coarse fibres with a long persistent neck in C cancellatus and no sign of the "teeth" at the base.
 
Hopefully when the others flower, there will be some C vitellinus amongst them.
 
I hope that this helps.
 
With kind regards
 
Bob

So, a case of examine the tunics in due course!

[YT]

Armin and Janis, thank you very much for the good suggestion
Maggi, thank you very much for your kind help and please pass my best greetings to Bob, the original collector.
I will check the corm tunic next summer and up load the pictures here again.

I have also checked my order list that I got this crocus seeds from JJA. Did I mix up labels with other crocus seeds listed below

339.609 Crocus abantensis - Turkey, Bolu, near Abant golu. 1100m.
340.090 Crocus angustifolius - Ukraine, Krim, near Yalta.
341.670 Crocus biflorus subsp. pulchricolor - No Data.
341.728 Crocus biflorus subsp. tauri - Turky, Ağri, Patnos.
341.801 Crocus boryi - Greece, messinia, S of Pilos. 200m.
343.001 Crocus caspius - Iran, Mazandaran, SE of Sari. 200m. In deep shade of deciduous woodland.
345.212 Crocus goulimyi from selected variants - Greece, Lakonia, N of Arepoli.
346.408 Crocus korolkowii - Uzbekistan, Samarkand, Seravshan, agalik valley. Ex J. Ruksans Colls.
347.402 Crocus laevigatus - Greece, Evia, above Nea Artaki. 300m. Clearing among Pinus & Cistus.
347.421 Crocus laevigatus - Greece, Crete, Mt. Vouvala. Ex an A. Edwards coll.
347.601 Crocus longiflorus - Italy, Sicily, Madonie Nebrodi. Ex an A. Edwards coll.
350.409 Crocus pulchellus - Greece. Ex R. & R. Wallis 01-34.
350.809 Crocus reticulatus - Moldova. Ex J. Ruksans Colls.
351.000 Crocus robertianus - Greece, Ioanina. W of Metsovo to Ioanina. 600m. Leafsoil at base of Quercus & Ostrya scrub.
351.100 Crocus rujanensis - Serbia, Rujan Planina. 600m. Ex a N. Randjelovic Coll.
352.006 Crocus serotinus subsp. salzmannii  Spain, Segovia, El Espinar. 1350m. R. D. Domi,guez coll.
352.099 Crocus serotinus subsp. salzmannii - Spain, Granada, Sierra Nevada below Penones de San Francisco. 2300m. NW-facing depression.
352.401 Crocus sieberi - Greece, Crete, Hania, S of Omalos. 1200m. Under trees on rocky slopes. Ex D. M. Hoskins 02-08.
352.455 Crocus sieberi subsp. atticus - Greece, Atiki-Pireas, Pendeli. c. 800m. Ex a M. Harvey coll.
352.550 Crocus sieberi subsp. sublimis - Greece, Evia, Oros Dirfis. 1000m. Among bracken on open , limestone slopes.
353.600 Crocus tournefortii - Greece, Karpathos. Ex an I. Barton coll.
354.002 Crocus veluchensis - Jugoslavia, Serbia, Kosovo, above Vratnica. 800m. Leaf-soil over clay in dense Fagus woods.

[JanB]

does anyone have better eye sight and possible knowledge of what this label says please? It's not the best of pictures I'm afraid. Saw this at one of the gardens during the Galanthus Gala, think it was John and Brenda Foster's garden: Gable House.

unreadable crocus

[Maggi Young]

Crocus cvijicii - can be difficult to grow as well as to spell and pronounce- real charmer though

[JanB]

wow, Maggi that was quick, thank you! Just managed to 'google' John and got his number, he knew exactly which one I was talking about, said it was from seed, hence variation and that it liked being wet, should be fine in Plymouth! Haven't got into crocus, but feel a twinge coming on...

[Maggi Young]

Glad to hear that!
Croconuttery is an ancient  and honourable profession,  you know!

Take a look through Ian Young's Bulb Logs to read about many of these fab plants.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/index.php?log=bulb

There are a few which prefer to have some moisture at their  roots at all times. Some barely go fully dormant and retain some growing roots nearly all year and resent drying out.

[JanB]

no, no and thrice I shout NO! I do not need encouraging to start another mad collection of plants!!!
Thing is, I don't need encouragement to do it at all