Crocus to identify? Post them here....

[johnw]

Janis & other Crocophiles


Janis & other learned Crocophiles - Do you consider Ruby Giant as shown to be a true tommassinnianus?  And Whitewell Purple?

I ask as I am now doubt we have true tommies here in eastern Canada.  We got 'Roseus' from a specialty nursery in Holland several years ago and it is now said by others to be a hybrid.  What do you think?

1 Crocus tommassinnianus 'Roseus' ex Holland and a reputed hybrid
2 Crocus tommassinnianus 'Roseus' at John Grimshaw's Sycamore Cottage

If a hybrid then a spontaeous cross or something in the trade? I'm at a loss, the colours were identical but ours lack the pointed petals.

Nice evening with Howard & Leila Clase last night. Though we regularly get together when I am in St. John's this is the first time Howard has been by here in 25 or more years.  Of course I forgot to ask him about tommies.


johnw - +7c & sunny

[art600]

John

If it is a hybrid, it is certainly better than the one in John Grimshaw's garden.

[David Nicholson]

Tommies David, only tommies. Sorry.
Janis

Thank you Janis. They'll do nicely under the tree in the garden.

[johnw]

And then we have a posting a few days ago on the UBC Pic of the Day.  Leaves?

http://www.botanicalgarden.ubc.ca/potd/2013/03/crocus-tommasinianus.php

johnw

[Janis Ruksans]

Janis & other Crocophiles
Nice evening with Howard & Leila Clase last night. Though we regularly get together when I am in St. John's this is the first time Howard has been by here in 25 or more years.  Of course I forgot to ask him about tommies.

Can't help you/ I'm not growing those cultivars for more than 15 years. The John Grimshaws Roseus looks true to name (by my memory). Ruby Giant is sterile (may be chromosome mutation). Whitewell Purple allways looked same as Ruby Giant, at least in stocks which I received from various sources in those years/
Janis

[Rimmer de Vries]

Hi
this purple crocus came up today in a patch of C  chrysanthus
 does anyone know what it is?

Thanks

Rimmer

[tonyg]

Hi
this purple crocus came up today in a patch of C  chrysanthus
 does anyone know what it is?

Thanks

Rimmer

Reminds me of a form of Crocus etruscus which is used in some mixed roadside plantings with biflorus/chrysanthus forms here.   

[Rimmer de Vries]

This is the first blooming of JJA 354.002 (Crocus veluchensis ex Serbia, Kosovo)

however it looks like a C vernus 'heuffelianus' type since it is just blooming now in the spring and has the dark tips

Is this identified correctly?

Thanks

[Rimmer de Vries]

This came as C chrysanthus "Milea" but there are two different types of styles

obviously at least one is not correct
 any idea on the species or name?

Thanks

Rimmer

[Janis Ruksans]

This came as C chrysanthus "Milea" but there are two different types of styles

obviously at least one is not correct
 any idea on the species or name?

Thanks

Rimmer

Style colour can vary even in one population. Some are very constant - such only red styles I saw in chrysanthus on Mt. Falakro in Greece. Near Uschak in Turkey mostly were yellow styles but some were light orange and some bright red. Style color only in exceptional cases can be used for identification - C. minutus, jablanicensis, leucostylosus.
Janis

[pontus]

This unknown crocus appeared suddenly this spring in my USA bed with trilliums, erythroniums and ferns, as well as USA lilies. i had not planted it there, so it remains a mystery how it got there.

Is it a sp or hybrid? if so, what could it be?

I had to resize the images for uploading, so it may not be easy to see, but i can e mail full resolution images to anyone interested.

Pontus

[tonyg]

This unknown crocus appeared suddenly this spring in my USA bed with trilliums, erythroniums and ferns, as well as USA lilies. i had not planted it there, so it remains a mystery how it got there.

Is it a sp or hybrid? if so, what could it be?

I had to resize the images for uploading, so it may not be easy to see, but i can e mail full resolution images to anyone interested.

Pontus

Looks rather like Crocus etruscus from this distance.  Nice!

[Janis Ruksans]

Could be seedling but could be joke of rodents as well. What it is? Impossible to identify.
Janis

[pontus]

Here it is again in closeup

yes, it could be rodents that have done something..as we have alot of them here....it would be nice if they picked these up in one of my neighbours gardens and brought them here! for once they would have done me a favour instead of the usual massacre they do with my bulbs!

Pontus

[Armin]

Pontus,

I would go with C. etruscus as Tony proposed.

But please check if it has a yellow center, then it could be C. kosaninii too.
I grew such pale, striped form from dutch origin but lost it by black frost.