Crocus to identify? Post them here....

[Lesley Cox]

Thank you both very much. I don't know that I'm much the wiser though. I think it's too late to be salzmannii and though I have some seedlings of veluchensis they're well labelled but not flowering yet. Vernus? maybe. There seems to be three lines to the name on the label, i.e. Crocus followed by two others and the third line MAY start with ssp but I can't really tell. Likewise, it MAY have come from Marcus Harvey and have the MH which I put on seeds from him. Perhaps I should send the pics to him for an opinion. I do photograph all new crocus corms now for future reference but of course these are seedlings, still in the pot they were sown in so I haven't seen the corms yet. There are a couple more going to flower and several single leaves coming through as well.

I hoped a pic of the label might help, if enhanced accordingly but not really. There do seem to several "i"s in the name.

[tonyg]

Yellow throat - a sieberi ssp perhaps?  It does hybridise with veluchensis in the wild so given Marcus' travels it could be that.  Check the tunic later, sieberi is nicely netted tunic, quite diff from other spring possibles.

[de.da.]

Hello.
Can someone tell me if that is only a  Cr.speciosus?
The flower looks so different ...




Thanks- Daniel

[udo]

Yes Daniel, this is Crocus speciosus.

[de.da.]

Hi Dirk!
Thanks!
What would it have to be?
I only planted (fall crocuses) Cr.speciosus and 2 Cr.nudiflorus and on an other place some Cr.sativus .
But it looks different to the others speciosus.
Adios- daniel

[Boyed]

Hi Dirk!
Thanks!
What would it have to be?
I only planted (fall crocuses) Cr.speciosus and 2 Cr.nudiflorus and on an other place some Cr.sativus .
But it looks different to the others speciosus.
Adios- daniel

There often variabily (colour, patterns, shape of flower, height, blooming time, etc.) within species and crocs speciosus is not an exception.

[fenius]

ok I really need to find out how to identify crocus if it's going to be a new obsession.. What do you guys use as help??

[Gerry Webster]

ok I really need to find out how to identify crocus if it's going to be a new obsession.. What do you guys use as help??

Well, if you are really keen & can afford it, a secondhand copy of Brian Mathew The Crocus (1982) would be my choice. More recent & up-to-date  publications are not in the same league.

[Maggi Young]

On this site there are the 'Crocus Pages',  by Tony Goode: http://www.srgc.org.uk/genera/index.php?log=crocus

There are also the pages prepared by Thomas Huber in the forum to help with crocus hybrid identification :
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=5061.0
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=5060.0
and the rest of this forum's  extensive Crocus Section : http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?board=10.0 will show you plants  in the wild and in cultivations by some of the foremost crocus experts to be found!

There are ten years of Ian Young's Bulb Log : http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/index.php?log=bulb  many of which contain Crocus related info...... with an Index of the first 11 years: http://www.srgc.org.uk/bulblog/index.pdf

The forum is searchable, of course....   

There is also  "The Country of Crocus" the excellent 'blog' of İbrahim Sözen, a Turkish  Forumist  with a particular passion for Crocus   http://crocusmania.blogspot.co.uk/    ( not only  crocus)

..... so, with this place as a start, you will  learn a great deal. 

[fenius]

Thank you gerry & maggi!!
I had only found tony's crocus pages, now there's all this other interesting stuff too!!.. I see many late nights ahead!
As for the book, I hope I'll eventually find a reasonably priced one on ebay sooner or later, now there's only one listing from the us..

[Gerry Webster]

As for the book, I hope I'll eventually find a reasonably priced one on ebay sooner or later, now there's only one listing from the us..

Try Abebooks:

http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=mathew&sts=t&tn=the+crocus

$40.00 from USA, $80.00 from UK.

[fenius]

thnx gerry, I found that too, I'll give it a few weeks of search before I despair and buy the us one, fortunately shipping to greece on abe is cheaper than on ebay

[pehe]

I got this as Crocus caspius, but where is the yellow throat?
Is it an albino form of caspius or wrongly named? None of my books mention albino forms of Crocus caspius.

Poul

[Janis Ruksans]

Don't think that it is caspius. But at peresent havn't any idea what it is.

[Rimmer de Vries]

I got this as Crocus caspius, but where is the yellow throat?
Is it an albino form of caspius or wrongly named? None of my books mention albino forms of Crocus caspius.

Poul

Poul
could your mystery crocus be a white form of C. goulimyi?
it has the floppy wide tepal shape distinctive of goulimyi

the Crocus caspius i have grown from seed have a unique lobed or ball stigma at the end of the style when the flower matures.



Rimmer