Crocus to identify? Post them here....

[de.da.]

 Hello Janis (and the others).
How do you indentify a virus?
Do you mean this irregular stripes?
Today I was in Drebach (a village with many wild crocus).
I would think I saw some similar plante with such stains.
That would be a shame. Unfortunately I did not take any photos. Maybe even show virus-infected crocuses someone a few photos. Thank you
Daniel

[Janis Ruksans]

Most sellers are not growing bulbs by themselves and really you can buy Dutch bulbs. No one is saved from virus, even most experienced growers. I destroyed several stocks this spring. I grew them outside and due weather conditions in last years was not easy to differentiate where is frost damage and where virus. Now, when after horrible rodent attack on field grown crocuses, corydalis, erythroniums, irises etc. I planted all residual bulbs in containers in greenhouse and now it was possible to make cleaning.

[udo]

Hello Janis (and the others).
How do you indentify a virus?
Do you mean this irregular stripes?
Today I was in Drebach (a village with many wild crocus).
I would think I saw some similar plante with such stains.
That would be a shame. Unfortunately I did not take any photos. Maybe even show virus-infected crocuses someone a few photos. Thank you
Daniel

Hello Daniel,
here a picture from a Crocus vernus with a dark virusinfection. ( Not in my garden!!)

[de.da.]

Thanks Dirk and Janis!
I fear, that I have such in my garden.
I destroyed some tommies last days.
I will keep my eyes open.
Thanks- Daniel

[Lesley Cox]

  Please tell me more about the virus so I can let the company I bought them from know.  I will begin digging them today. 

I wonder if your company will take a blind bit of notice Julie. Often letting a company/nursery know their product is diseased, or wrongly named or whatever, and even when the disease name is supplied, or the correct plant name, they take no notice whatsoever and year after year, the problem or the wrong name is perpetuated and continually supplied to those who order it. Shameful behaviour in my opinion. You don't have to take someone's word for it that your plant is wrong but with that starting point it's not difficult to do a little research and confirm or otherwise.

[Shadylanejewel]

I wonder if your company will take a blind bit of notice Julie.

Hi Lesley,

I'm wondering the same thing.  Last year when the flowers bloomed and they were definitely not what I ordered, they responded to my email by the next day with an offer to issue a refund or send a replacement.  Since I really wanted the correct flowers, I chose replacement (in hindsight the refund would have been better).

This time they have not responded.  It has only been a few days since I sent the first email letting them know the replacements were also wrong and they followed by an email letting them know about the virus.

If I don't hear back from them soon, I'll try an alternate method of contact.

[Lesley Cox]

And as Janis says - or I think it's what he's saying - most nurseries/firms buy their bulbs wholesale from the huge Dutch companies so they have no control over what they are offering to gardeners. My couple of experiences in contacting the Dutch suppliers  (way back in the 60s) got me the response that the bulbs had "changed" on their trip over the equator to the other side of the world. Cabbage-looking I may be but green, naive, stupid, I am not!

[Pauli]

This Crocus was pictured on Parnass last week.
Is it still clean veluchensis or some sort of hybrid with atticus sublimis (little yellow in the throat)

[tonyg]

This Crocus was pictured on Parnass last week.
Is it still clean veluchensis or some sort of hybrid with atticus sublimis (little yellow in the throat)

I'd suspect some hybrid influence from sieberi but others with knowledge of the wild populations may be able to confirm this.  A very nice specimen ... was it alone or part of a colony of similar plants?

[Pauli]

As far as I can say there were several such types in a colony of atticus ??  Others had not that clear markings like the first following
the next two are named veluchensis by me

[Pauli]

Then two pictures atticus

Many plants looked kike the last ones - somebody ( a bird? ) feeds on them

[de.da.]

Greetings!
Can someone tell me the difference between Cr.speciosus and Cr.speciosus 'Aitchinsonii'?
I can't see a difference at my flowers....
Kind regards.
Daniel

[Thomas Huber]

Hi Daniel.
Do you have photos?
Generally C. speciosus is a mix of different forms/clones of speciosus, while Aichinsonii is a selected clone. BUT I found it nearly impossible to get true plants of the speciosus clones in trade, only a few reliable dealers sell them true to name, most have only a mix to offer.... 

[Mike Ireland]

Eight petals on Crocus speciosus
two other crocus I need help to identify.

Thanks

[Thomas Huber]

Crocus pulchellus - a very nice form
C. pulchellus Zephyr