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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #855 on: October 31, 2015, 01:21:38 PM »
Many thanks Janis, I will tell her we need to see the corm before we can confirm what it is.

Edit June 2016 : .... posts from here copied and new pix of corm added - here 
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« Reply #856 on: October 31, 2015, 02:26:28 PM »
A member of our Northumberland group has asked me to see if anyone here can help ID this crocus purchased as C. zonatus.  When I checked in the Ruksans tome, it is a synonym for C. kotschyanus ssp kotschyanus.  But is this that bulb please?
Definitely speciosus .... C zonatus of trade is usually virused and very shy flowering.

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« Reply #857 on: October 31, 2015, 02:41:10 PM »
No opinions on t00lie's  pix on the previous page?
 http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=4369.msg340049#msg340049
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« Reply #858 on: October 31, 2015, 03:06:16 PM »
No opinions on t00lie's  pix on the previous page?
 http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=4369.msg340049#msg340049
Some of the biflorus group were tricky to ID under Mathew.  In the new erae unless we get precise small details of the plant and/or exact wild location, tricky is not an adequate way to put it.   :P

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« Reply #859 on: October 31, 2015, 03:11:46 PM »
Some of the biflorus group were tricky to ID under Mathew.  In the new erae unless we get precise small details of the plant and/or exact wild location, tricky is not an adequate way to put it.   :P

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« Reply #860 on: October 31, 2015, 05:59:41 PM »
C zonatus of trade is usually virused and very shy flowering.

And every year this one arrives in Canada from Holland via either Vanhof & Blokker or Ruigrok or both and never flowers.  One wonders when the suppliers, retailers and consumers will wake up.

The latest arrival is Crocus chrysanthus 'Roseus'.......... ::)

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« Reply #861 on: November 06, 2015, 07:31:14 PM »
After 7 years my expensive corm of 'C.michelsonii' has finally flowered and looks suspiciously like C sativus.  :-\
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« Reply #862 on: November 06, 2015, 07:33:15 PM »
Is this really C. asumanae?
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« Reply #863 on: November 07, 2015, 12:48:07 AM »
Is this really C. asumanae?
A tentative yes ..... point if division of style should be at anther level.  However I cannot see enough to be sure.  Alternative would be Crocus pallasii. 

The other one is indeed Crocus sativus  :(
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Crocus.and.Colchicum/?fref=ts
This FB group has Crocus moabiticus image at top of page and there are more wild habitat shots in recent posts.

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« Reply #864 on: November 07, 2015, 08:22:25 AM »
After 7 years my expensive corm of 'C.michelsonii' has finally flowered and looks suspiciously like C sativus.  :-\

That is galling, doubly so when it's supposed to be an expensive beauty. Perhaps the ony occasion to not be please by flowers on C.sativus?
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« Reply #865 on: November 07, 2015, 11:31:53 AM »
With only one flower on the now 13 corms, I don't think it will be in my collection next year!
Thanks for your comment, Tony.
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« Reply #866 on: November 07, 2015, 01:43:54 PM »
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Crocus.and.Colchicum/?fref=ts
This FB group has Crocus moabiticus image at top of page and there are more wild habitat shots in recent posts.

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« Reply #867 on: November 07, 2015, 11:14:09 PM »
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And re-reading Anne's post I see it is MICHELSONII in the mix-up .... not moabiticus as I read it first time.   :-[  I must stop posting late at night!

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« Reply #868 on: November 08, 2015, 06:38:41 AM »
With only one flower on the now 13 corms, I don't think it will be in my collection next year!
Thanks for your comment, Tony.
That confirms identification as sativus. It really need long and hot summer to produce many flowers. With me it happens every second or third year only. This autumn I had 4 flowers from three large pots with in total 30-40 corms. A year before blooming was abundant.
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« Reply #869 on: November 08, 2015, 09:56:09 PM »
As I suspected, Janis, Thank you. Long hot summers are very rare in North Yorkshire!
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